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Paul Phillips
07-19-2010, 7:33 PM
Hi guys, I mostly hang out in the laser forum so this is my first post in the CNC forum. I have been running two MultiCam CNC machines for the last 10 years so hopefully I will have some experience I can share, and I always look to learn something new from others. I come from a little different perspective than most here though since I am an employee for a large sign company, and most people here seem to own their own business.
I am very impressed with the quality of work that I have seen from those who have posted pictures on here. You woodworkers are amazing; I wish I had time to learn some of what I’ve seen you guys do. I make signs for a living though so most of my experience is in that area.
I have two machines and like to keep one dedicated to cutting aluminum and one for everything else. I have one machine that is a 50”x120” table with a 4hp Colombo spindle and stepper drive motors. I use this one for aluminum since we do a lot of channel letters and lighted cabinets. My other machine is a 49”x97” table with a 5.5hp high frequency (32000rpm) Colombo spindle with 6 bit tool changer and uses servo drive motors. This machine is great for acrylics. When I want to put a near polished edge on some thick acrylic letters I use this at max rpm’s on my finish pass.
I like to use mostly Onsrud single edge 0 flute end mills when I can, especially for aluminum, I find it leaves a nice edge, has good feed rates and leaves nice big waste chips vs. small slivers that always seem to get under your skin and stick to everything when I use double fluted bits.
When cutting aluminum I always try to use 5052 alloy when possible because it seems to cut faster than a harder alloy like 6061. I cut a lot of letters out of .25” 5052 sheet for making stud mounted letters. I found that to save time doing a tool change I use a 5/32” End Mill to do both the drill holes into the backs of the letters and then cut out the shapes, then I can take the letters to the drill press with the auto tapper and tap them with a #10-24 tap, then the letters are ready for prep and paint. That way on a large run of letters I can just let the job run while I do something else.
Here are a few pics of some of the signs I have worked on.


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Joey Jarrard
07-19-2010, 9:04 PM
Paul welcome to the cnc thread. You hit the nail on the head the woodworkers here are second to none.

Gene Crain
07-19-2010, 9:05 PM
Nice work.

Must be nice to have two great machines...might be best if you paint one of 'em blue or yellow :)

Thanks for posting.

Gene

Nicholas Bukky
07-19-2010, 9:06 PM
Very nice work Paul!
Is that a wter feature with the chain and urn??
What type of software do you design in?

Please share more of your work!!!\\

Thanks for posting,
Nick

Dan Hintz
07-20-2010, 7:03 AM
Thought for a second you were cutting out the Starship Enterprise on that second pic ;)

I would love to see the water feature in person... and I wouldn't mind recreating something like that, if I had the location for it (which I don't!).

Bob Savage
07-20-2010, 11:03 AM
Welcome to the forum, Paul. Looking forward to seeing more of your work and of course, reading the details about your approach etc.

Paul Phillips
07-20-2010, 11:56 AM
Thanks for the comments. Yes, that is a water feature on the urn, it is in the main entry of a steakhouse at a local casino, the second picture in the first post is one of the sections for the urn being cut-out.
In this post the first pic is of a backlit 2 1/2d logo, the 2nd is of me finishing up the urn before paint, I used 10lb HDU and finished with bronze Luminore cold metalizing. 3rd is another view of the 30' donor sign during fab, you can see the mountain shapes that I routed. 4th, another view of the urn installed, we hired out the fountain work. Last is of the steakhouse letters, .090 aluminum channel with .5" push thru acrylic lighted.
I use EnRoute3 Pro for my design and output, but I mostly only use the design tools when I'm doing 3d work, most of the sign designs and concepts are done by our design team in Corel Draw and I just take their ideas and files and convert them to usable CNC files.
The last picture in the 1st post is actually a view of the 4th pic during fabrication. The 4th is a 30ft. donor plaque that we did for a new wing that was donated to the local medical center. I guess all you have to do is get enough million dollar+ donors together and they will pay plenty to make sure everyone else knows how much they donated.;) It costs 100 million to get the whole building named after you however.
The company I work for specializes in high-end custom signs so we like to cater to the local casinos and resorts, good work if you can get it.
Paul

Bob Savage
07-20-2010, 5:35 PM
The company I work for specializes in high-end custom signs so we like to cater to the local casinos and resorts, good work if you can get it.
Paul

Just noticed you're in Palm Springs. You guys must spend a small fortune on air conditioning during the summer!

james mcgrew
07-20-2010, 6:35 PM
:mad:ok that does it!!!


i am buying another machine, had some serious fun today with aluminum

finally:)

welcome we need you here

Paul Phillips
07-20-2010, 7:40 PM
Bob, you have no idea, I finally got on the level pay plan this year so my payments are the same every month, that sure beats what I was paying in July of last year! 108* today because of the clouds, 85* at night, 118* last Friday, we haven't broke 120* yet this summer though so hopefully we won't have to!:eek:
Paul

Nicholas Bukky
07-20-2010, 8:51 PM
Jim your a junkie!
Do they have cnc addiction meetings somewhere?

Paul great work and I too look forward to you sharing your knowledge!

Thanks,
Nick

james mcgrew
07-20-2010, 9:06 PM
got a seat just for you nick

;)

Nicholas Bukky
07-21-2010, 10:39 AM
Wifes still mad at me for not bringing back a case last october:eek:

james mcgrew
07-21-2010, 11:20 AM
ya'll when nick drives south buy stock in cheerwine.

and he thinks i have addictions

Jim Underwood
07-21-2010, 12:26 PM
Welcome to the creek.

Did you route the urn in sections? I see glue seams before the paint...

If you routed it in sections, how did you do the sides?:confused:

Paul Phillips
07-21-2010, 6:34 PM
Jim,
I created the 3-d image in Enroute and then sliced it into 3" thick slices that I could manage on my table. I then glued the slices together and finished with some hand tools. I wish I had a taller gantry for doing thicker material, mine is only 6.5". The trade off though is that the taller you go the more you lose rigidity and accuracy, at least according to MultiCam.
Paul

james mcgrew
07-21-2010, 9:53 PM
welcome paul, here is a vid of my first venture into "slicing"

http://www.youtube.com/user/cabnet636#p/a/f/0/tCrEJ2Ud5YU

jim

Paul Phillips
07-21-2010, 11:06 PM
Thanks Jim,
That's very some very nice work you have done. Did you create the 3d files yourself and if so what program did you use?
Paul

james mcgrew
07-22-2010, 6:17 AM
we had Guy Mathews scan the chess players and the rest was done with aspire, a scanner is next on my list!

Jim Underwood
07-22-2010, 12:01 PM
I haven't taken a look at Mr. McGrew's vid yet, so he may have answered the question there...

I understand the slicing concept to create larger than Router clearance capacity reliefs.

What I don't understand is, as your slices got closer to the middle of your spheroid object, how you carved the edges?

james mcgrew
07-22-2010, 12:09 PM
one object (model) software "slices" sections to accomodate the material thickness or capacity, then each slice is machined separatly.

jim