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Jason Fastenau
07-19-2010, 2:51 AM
I'm working on refurbishing an outdoor redwood park sign in central Alaska. The sign will be exposed to a range of 90 above and constant sun in the summer to 70+ below in the winter.

I'm going to paint part of it with a good exterior paint, and hit the rest with a sanding sealer. What I need is suggestions for a good top coat for it that can survive the thermal movement of the wood, and which offers excellent UV protection for the constant sun in the summer.

I was thinking about an automotive clearcoat. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Ben Davis
07-19-2010, 1:16 PM
I think the automotive clearcoat will crack with that much wood movement!

How about Silkens?

Al Wasser
07-19-2010, 3:00 PM
We used redwood signs when I worked for the Forest Service. The bears love them and will destroy them quickly. A switch to oak solved the problem. In most cases you want the sign to weather but keep the lettering visible/readable.

Gary Max
07-19-2010, 4:41 PM
What Al said then soak with a good Danish oil------bugs and animals don't like the oil and it will take the temps you are talking about.

Scott Holmes
07-19-2010, 6:11 PM
When you switch to oak, make sure it's WHITE OAK. Red oak doesn't do well outside white oak is excellent outside.

Mike Davis NC
07-19-2010, 7:10 PM
I have used DuPont automotive acrylic paint on wood and also on cloth awnings. It works great and will last at least twenty years. That's how long the ones I did have been in the Alabama sun. I moved on to Georgia and haven't used the latest formulations. Hopefully today's paints are better than the stuff I used back then.

Jason Fastenau
07-21-2010, 5:57 PM
Thanks for the feedback everybody. Replacing it with oak isn't an option. It's an old sign that's being restored. With the nice light redwood the thing weighs a good 150 pounds. I can't imagine trying to hang that much oak up. The good news is that it is in the center of town, so no bear worries.

The silkens is an interesting idea. I have some permachink stain and top-seal ready for my new garage, which looks like the same general product line as the silkens. I wonder how that stuff would act over paint. No cracking for sure... nice satin finish.

Quinn McCarthy
07-22-2010, 9:48 AM
Sikkens Cetol and penofin oil great outdoor finishes. We don't get -70 here but we get -50 a few times a year. Neith one is cheap but you get what you pay for. They both hold up great. Somewhere I read or heard never use automotive finish on wood. Not it doesn't move as much as you need for wood.

I am not saying that is true but it might be something to look into.

HTH

Quinn