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Terry Hatfield
12-04-2004, 8:19 PM
of this slipery slope. :D

I just have to try this plane thing out. LV LA jack with a couple of HA blades, LV sharpening system and a restored #4 Stanley with A2 iron are on the way .......and hopefully a LV block for Xmas. This is kinda fun. I actually already owned a Record #5. It was still in the box from 3 years ago. I sure hope I can figger this stuff out. I got The Handplane Book and The Complete Guide to Sharpening book already and am trying to grasp the concepts.

What have I done???????? :eek:

Terry

Ted Shrader
12-04-2004, 8:26 PM
Terry -

I had one of the three (only three) planes I have out the other day to help fit a drawer. There are times when nothing else will do. . . . .

Sharpened the blade up on the Tormek, since last time it was used. Man what a difference!

Ted

John Miliunas
12-04-2004, 9:00 PM
What have I done???????? :eek:

Terry

Terry, Terry, Terry...You're dead meat, now! :eek: Welcome to the "Dark Side"! You will now also have to stock up on candles and wine for the shop! :D I hear great things about that LV LA and I happen to know that Tyler just tried out the HA blade on it. Likes it, too! If that's the MK II sharpening system you're getting, you're gonna' flat-out LOVE it! What a piece of equipment that is! Have fun and don't forget the pics when your stuff comes in! :cool:

Brian Buckley
12-04-2004, 10:54 PM
You are in BIG trouble now. This is a downhill slideeeeeeeeee.

Brian

Terry Hatfield
12-04-2004, 10:57 PM
John,

I'll be sure to post some pics. I didn't get the powered system just the sharpening guide do-hickey-thing-a-ma-bob for holding the plane blades so I can scary sharp them by hand.

t

John Miliunas
12-04-2004, 11:03 PM
John,

I'll be sure to post some pics. I didn't get the powered system just the sharpening guide do-hickey-thing-a-ma-bob for holding the plane blades so I can scary sharp them by hand.

t

Gotchya'. Hey, fact is, I gots one 'o them, too. Have for quite a long time and it does a splendid job, as well. Of course, NOT quite as FAST (zoom, zoom!) as the MK II, but I did my first chisel on it a couple years ago with the SS system and it cut sweet, even for an el cheapo piece. :) :cool:

Keith Christopher
12-04-2004, 11:39 PM
Yeah the slide is a good one. but it makes sense.


As we work with wood we want to fully understand this medium. and powertools rip through the wood with reckless abandon and skilled hands operate them and reign in the power tools. but only under the careful hands and eye, can someone shape wood, feeling the shaping occur unsupressed by the whine of a motor and the vibration of a machine. we begin to understand this medium we choose to sculpt. The tools become an extension of our hands, doing what we would- could our very hands perform the task.


(I am a long time neander, when my grandfather taught me these things, he would never allow me to use a powertool until I understood the hand tool it replaced. at the time I hated that, cutting doves and mortises by hand. using a hand saw when a circular is there. but I now understand.)

Roger Myers
12-05-2004, 12:00 AM
Terry,
Welcome....
I am a little concerned about a couple of things that may prove to be a problem for you...from the pictures I've seen of your shop and how neat it always is, I'm thinking you are going to need to configure some innovative connections for your dust collector to catch all those whispy shavings you are going to be making :) On the other hand, maybe Dave Anderson can provide some advice, since he seems to be able to have a shop where a shaving doesn't seem to ever settle to the floor, yet i know for a fact that he certainly creates quite a few.
And Terry, it seems you have taken right to the steepest of slopes with the decision to forgo power sharpening....We can keep this whole situation "quiet" - no one on the powered side ever need know what has happened:)
Have fun Terry, we'll be keeping an eye out for you at the hand tool auctions!
Roger

Jim Becker
12-05-2004, 10:34 AM
Slip-slidin' away...slip-slidin' away...

Tyler Howell
12-05-2004, 10:40 AM
Hey Terry!

Welcome, I'm a newbee here but I ain't turning back. You know all the folks. Nice thing is you can talk to them while your working.;)
Because you keep a really clean shop and you've been good about posts in the past we're going to pass on the pix lecture.:D

Mark Singer
12-05-2004, 11:17 AM
and you will be a better man for it!:D

Steve Cox
12-05-2004, 12:38 PM
Why the dichotomy between power and hand? Tools are what we use to create, sometimes a motor is a big help, sometimes it is too much power and speed. I started playing with my #78 (rabbet) plane the other day and suprise, suprise, if I only have one or two rabbets to cut or modify, it's faster to do by hand than to pull out the dado set and set up the table saw. Tyler, welcome to the tools that will make you a more complete woodworker!

Terry Hatfield
12-05-2004, 2:49 PM
Hey Terry!

Welcome, I'm a newbee here but I ain't turning back. You know all the folks. Nice thing is you can talk to them while your working.;)
Because you keep a really clean shop and you've been good about posts in the past we're going to pass on the pix lecture.:D


Tyler,

I can scan and post my LV order but that's about it for now on the good planes. I don't have any of them yet!!

I do have a #5 Record that I have had for 3 years setting in it's original box. I decided to get it out today and try to feddle it with my newly aquired knowledge from reading everything I could get my hands on for the last couple weeks. WOW!!! What a difference. I had tried the Record right out of the box and it was not good. I know now that that is normal, I just didn't know it when I first got it.

Anyway, I scary sharened the blade, lapped the chip breaker, checked the sole and it's not to bad so I just levt it as was, trued the frog and FINALLY got the frog into proper alignment. I got everything put back together and after about 30 minutes more of fussig and cussing I got some decent results while planig some power planer tearout out of the QS white oak for the LOML's grandfather clock.

This is a pretty cool deal!!! The rays in the OS seem to stand out more now and I have gotten rid of most of the tearout. There is a grain change in this board that I haven't quite figgered out yet but overall I'm pleased with the result.

Can't wait to get the LV stuff and give that a try.

t


Oh ya...for the pic police..........

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Kevin Beck
12-05-2004, 7:35 PM
I've recently started down the slope too. I've attached a photo of my current planes. A 4, 5, 7, and a 9 1/2. The 4 and 5 are from the same source as Terry (frigator on Woodnet) and are set up very well. The #7 is an eBay find and is in good shape and the 9 1/2 came from another fellow on Woodnet.

I've been reading Garrett Hack's "The Handlplane Book" and Leonard Lee's book on sharpening also.

I'm having fun and am in the process of modifying my work bench to be more neander friendly (adding a vise, etc.)

Tyler Howell
12-05-2004, 9:04 PM
Do Do Do Do Do Do Do...Another one bites the Dust!:D :D

Terry Hatfield
12-05-2004, 9:31 PM
Kevin,

Cool!!! I can't wait to get my first #4 from Robin. I'm sure it won't be my last.

t

Tim Sproul
12-05-2004, 10:43 PM
I think you've really gone over when you're either:

1. making your own hand tools to get what you want

or

2. you're talking to a toolmaker to make custom hand tools to get what you want



2. for me :)