New Grizzly jointer old PM motor

[Paul Steiner]

It looks like my school will finally get the funds to buy a replacement jointer. I will have about $600 and I will likely get a 2hp 8" model from grizzly. This will replace a 3phase, 2hp 8" powermatic that has bad bearings and a broken table, however the motor is fine.
The problem is my room is wired for 3 phase and the new jointer will likely be single phase. Getting the county to put in a new single phase outlet is a mess of red tape and will probably take 6 months. Wiring it myself is not an option because county policy is that it has to be done by an electrician.
My solution is to swap motors so I can put the jointer into use. I am allowed to hook up and wire machines. My first question is will it fit? What do the motor mounts on a grizz look like compared to a PM? Next question is can you think of a better solution? I would love to hear your input.

[Fred Belknap]

First thing I would is call Grizzly and see if they will swap motors. For a school they might. Heck they might donate one.:)

[Kirk Poore]

You might be able to order the jointer with a three phase switch and without a motor. I'm sure it would save some money.

Oh, and if the bearings are bad on the jointer they probably need to be changed on the motor too.

Kirk

[Paul Steiner]

I would like a 3 phase motor in the new jointer, but I think it will not fit the budget.
I called grizz and they said all machines get motors, no exceptions.

[Andrew Nemeth]

What about using the money to rebuild the old jointer. I would think $600 would be plenty to replace bearings and broken parts.

[Simon Dupay]

What about using the money to rebuild the old jointer. I would think $600 would be plenty to replace bearings and broken parts.
I argee with this that powermatic is much better machine then that grizzly will ever be you should be able to fix that table or find a replacement table that will fit.

[Paul Steiner]

Unfortunately the jointer can not be repaired the damage pretty bad and you can see in the thread. Long story short I have repaired 5 machines already, its time for a replacement. I have access to a large county budget for repairs, but the repair is to complicated and expensive. Basically I have been told get a new jointer.

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=121860

[Andrew Nemeth]

I wish I were closer, I'd take the powermatic off your hands. It does look like a bit of work, but I'm a sucker.

[george wilson]

We had a real bad time with a new PM jointer that our millwork shop got. The tables were terribly out of alignment. As toolmaker,I was asked to look at it. With a 4' straight edge,the outfeed table drooped about 3/16" at its rear end. All I could do was pack a pile of shims in the dovetails,which isn't a decent solution. I HAD urged them to buy a Bridgewood like my personal machine. I paid a fraction of the cost of their PM. They didn't listen.

I ordered a new cheapest model 8" jointer from Grizzly for my job before I retired. Our 1950's Delta had some table wear problems. The new Grizzly was exceedingly accurate. I got a discontinued model,and it was very cheap.

I think your Grizzly will be very satisfactory.If it isn't,they will make it right. I'm sure there will be plenty of room for your old motor.

[Brian Ross]

I can certainly understand Grizzly's position but considering the reason you need the 3 phase and it is for educational purposes that a E Mail sent to the President of Grizzly may get you a different answer. He does seem to be a very understanding person.

Brian

[Rod Sheridan]

It looks like my school will finally get the funds to buy a replacement jointer. I will have about $600 and I will likely get a 2hp 8" model from grizzly. This will replace a 3phase, 2hp 8" powermatic that has bad bearings and a broken table, however the motor is fine.
The problem is my room is wired for 3 phase and the new jointer will likely be single phase. Getting the county to put in a new single phase outlet is a mess of red tape and will probably take 6 months. Wiring it myself is not an option because county policy is that it has to be done by an electrician.
My solution is to swap motors so I can put the jointer into use. I am allowed to hook up and wire machines. My first question is will it fit? What do the motor mounts on a grizz look like compared to a PM? Next question is can you think of a better solution? I would love to hear your input.

If the two machines are the same voltage, you could run the single phase machine from the 3 phase circuit if the breaker is large enough.

Since the breaker most likely would be 15 amperes you may be OK if the voltage is suitable.

Regards, Rod.

[Steve Bracken]

I can certainly understand Grizzly's position but considering the reason you need the 3 phase and it is for educational purposes that a E Mail sent to the President of Grizzly may get you a different answer. He does seem to be a very understanding person.

Brian

He is understanding, but you will likely not get a different answer unless he feels like donating.

Grizzly specify all their machines, from the factory, with motors. To change that would be time-consuming and expensive.

A better solution might be to buy the machine, swap the motors and sell the brand new Grizzly motor you no longer need.

[Matt Meiser]

I'd check into running it off your 3 phase first. I'm sure changing out the motor will void your warranty (and rightfully so.)

If its 120/208 and the CB is at least 20A call tech support ask them if 208V (which is 5.5% under the rated voltage) is an acceptable voltage for the motor. If so like Rod said you can run it off 2 legs of the 3-phase circuit.

Or barring that, what about calling local electrical contractors or the closest local of the IBEW and asking for a donation of a couple hours labor and maybe materials?

[Kirk Poore]

Unfortunately the jointer can not be repaired the damage pretty bad and you can see in the thread. Long story short I have repaired 5 machines already, its time for a replacement. I have access to a large county budget for repairs, but the repair is to complicated and expensive. Basically I have been told get a new jointer.

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=121860

Contact Redmond Machinery in Atlanta. http://www.redmondmachinery.com/

They may have the base casting you need.

Kirk

[Matt Meiser]

Good luck with that. Redmond wouldn't return multiple phone calls or emails from me on PM parts a year or so ago. It sounded like there is 1 guy who knows what's going on with them.

[Kirk Poore]

Good luck with that. Redmond wouldn't return multiple phone calls or emails from me on PM parts a year or so ago. It sounded like there is 1 guy who knows what's going on with them.

I have had better luck with them. I was able to get some parts for my PM 30 sander in a reasonably short amount of time.

Kirk