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Dave MacArthur
06-06-2010, 2:50 AM
Well, finally after 3 years of shopping for band saws, reading band saw threads, and cruising Craigs List every night, tonight I have an Agazzani B20 sitting in my garage.

I got some great emails and info from Mark Woodmark on the Agazzani line after asking for info here about a month ago--thanks again! The saw looked beautiful, any of them, and I lusted after one, but at full price I still couldn't decide.

I will say that until 24 hours ago, I never expected to end up with an Agazzani. In fact, I had decided on one of the Grizzly saws: G0514x2 most likely, G0636 17" Ultimate, or the G0701 19" Ultimate. I REALLY expected to end up with that 514x2, and three days ago when I read the Bing cash back was ending, then Shiraz posted they'd put equipment up for Bing purchase if asked, I actually made a Bing account to do the purchase this weekend. After 3 years, I'd decided to buy the 514x2... or the 0701...depending on what I could talk the wife into...or the 0636..but a Grizzly band saw was in my immediate future.

Now the strange part. I've been reading Craigs List every night for 4 years now, and I scan "band saw", "bandsaw", and read all the posts. I also scan for Agazzani, Mini Max, Laguna, and Grizzly, always a waste of time but like playing the Lotto, I always hoped one would show. In 4 years, I have NEVER seen an Agazzani or Mini Max or Grizzly 19" bandsaw, and only 1 Laguna. Last night I find a 3 year old Agazzani B20 in a private garage shop, 140 miles north of me in Northern AZ. I was in my car driving north as soon as weekend military duty was over!

When I got there, the saw was perfect, no marks on it, ran and tracked well, cut great, good euro-guides, adjusted well. Came with a mobile base, miter-gauge, fence, and a carbide 1" Lennox Tri-master, and two other blades in good shape. Out the door price: $1500. I just couldn't pass up that price, my decision was forced on me!

Folks have written in many threads to get as big a band saw as you can afford and fit. And many times I've read and thought about the idea of getting the tool you want, so you don't regret your purchase and feel bad every time you see the tool. And to buy quality so you enjoy using the tool each time. All these things I'm sure will be satisfied by this great B-20 band saw. But here's the wierd thing...

... I find I have buyers remorse, not for the saw itself, but because I didn't end up buying a saw from Grizzly. Over the years, I've been so absolutely impressed with the company that I had determined in my mind that they deserved my business. And their band saw lineup is just fantastic. And the 513x, 514x2, 636 and 701 17" and 19" band saws have every design feature I ever dreamed of with great specs and glowing reviews. This Agazzani deal was too good and too rare for me to pass up and honestly I do think I got the best saw available, but I imagined a Griz sitting there so many times, with pleasure, that there's a bit of "inverse remorse" or something. I just thought I'd mention it so folks reading about band saws and making decisions know I didn't decide to buy an Agazzani over a 19" Grizzly, I just got the smoking deal that I couldn't pass up.

I'll keep my 14" Delta 28-276 band saw also, with a 1/4 or 3/8" blade on it. Pics of the B20, two band saws together for size comparison, the mobile base on the B20, and a pic out my pickup rear window showing the saw laying on it's spine all strapped in snugly with it's table removed.

Dave MacArthur
06-06-2010, 3:09 AM
Moving the Saw:

I checked the specs and the saw was 474 lbs and 76" high. My Toyota Tacoma 4WD looked like it would carry it, with the tail gate open--only 74" long bed. Seller had 2 guys available to help load, so I figured I didn't need to rent a trailer.

However, I did check the Uhaul trailers, $14/day rent! I was going to get one with the ramp (motorcycle trailer) and take up with me just in case, but my tail-light cable kit wasn't working so Uhaul wouldn't rent me one. Oh well.

Took one guy in the pickup bed and two guys tilting saw and lifting bottom to just slide the saw in the bed on it's spine. I rested it on a moving pad/blanket, and three 1x cross pieces of wood to keep the door hinges up off the pickup bed. Slid it right in, then was able to push it angled into a corner and easily fit it in a Tacoma with the tail gate closed.

I brought 16' or so of 2x4, and my DeWalt 18v drill and sawzall. I just chopped the 2x4s up to wedge into the pickup bed corners then against the saw to block it in so it absolutely couldn't move, and to provide "sway braces" so it wouldn't tip over sideways. In 5 minutes, I had blocking cut and screwed into place holding that saw so solid the you could have dropped the pickup out of a plane on a parachute, and the saw wouldn't have budged. I then wrapped 4 tie-down ratchet straps around it strategically so everything was held tightly in place.

I then removed the 4 nuts holding the table on, and easily lifted the table off the trunnions and put it in the bed, blocked in place, to be sure trunnions were not hurt during the drive.

Drove 2.5 hours through the northern AZ mountains, no problems.

At home, made a loop of climbing rope static line at the very top of the saw, and also rigged up a "cradle" about the mid-point of the saw. Hooked the middle loop up to my $99 HF 2-ton engine hoist, raised it up off pickup bed and backed it out to edge of tailgate, lowered it back down. Taped the mobile base onto the bottom. Moved shop crane to the top loop, raised saw up off pickup bed at 45 angle, then just rolled crane forward until mobile base touched down (saw rotated about the tail gate pivot point). Then cranked the crane to bring saw upright. One-man unloading, completely controlled and no problems. Don't forget to chock the wheels on your shop crane...that was almost a problem ;)

Eiji Fuller
06-06-2010, 3:28 AM
I hate you.


JK Nice deal man. I would take that saw over 2 grizzes. that is a saw of a lifetime.

Van Huskey
06-06-2010, 5:57 AM
YOU, my friend SUCK!!

Van Huskey
06-06-2010, 6:04 AM
I was gonna just add this in an edit but it wouldn't let me change font size!

I am glad you got the saw, that was an excellent deal!

Also glad to hear the unloading was uneventful. BTW that wouldn't have been a piece of Bluewater II rope would it?

Bill ThompsonNM
06-06-2010, 8:41 AM
You could have driven another 6 hours and had this in your garage:
http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/tls/1772013616.html
:D
Congratulations on your new saw it looks fabulous-- I'm envious!

Gary Kvasnicka
06-06-2010, 9:39 AM
Never buy a lottery ticket again, you have used up all of your luck.:D
Enjoy the bandsaw, if you feel like you you just have to have a grizzly we could maybe work out a trade for my G0514x2.;)

Dave Fujiki
06-06-2010, 10:22 AM
Reverse regrets on an Agazzani? That is the holy grail of all bandsaws! Great score, but as all others may (or may not admit), I'm truly jealous. 20" throat and 20" resaw, how can you go wrong? Now just get a few mods and you're truly at the top of the heap! Please let me know if your Grizzly thoughts overwhelm you.....

Mike Cruz
06-06-2010, 10:33 AM
Wow. Beautiful BS. Yet another happy CL shopper... Congrats!

Carroll Courtney
06-06-2010, 10:56 AM
Dave next time you go into town make a doctors appointment to see if there is any head injuries.Buyers remorse,are you kidding!You should be padding yourself on the back,the buyers remorse would have set in if you had purchase the Griz.Yes I know alot of people are happy w/griz and I have griz tools also.But I believe that you have purchase the best BS made for the times,griz can't come close.Grin from ear to ear:D you lucky dog.Congrads----Carroll

Bruce Page
06-06-2010, 11:39 AM
I don't think your buyers remorse will last too long. You got a great saw at a great price.
You're wise to keep the 14". I sold mine when I bought my MiniMax and regretted it.

Joseph Tarantino
06-06-2010, 11:43 AM
dave....is the agazzani a belt or a direct drive?

Van Huskey
06-06-2010, 11:54 AM
dave....is the agazzani a belt or a direct drive?


Belt drive

Tony Shea
06-06-2010, 12:12 PM
Un friggen beleivable man. That is basically a steal at that price. You will get some serious work out of that saw and probably spend most of your shop time in front of her. You may want to put a rubber padded mat in front of it cause if it was me I'd rarely move from that spot in the shop. Really can't describe in words how jelous I am of you, just can't seem to come up with deals like that around these parts on CL. Great score man and take care of her because she's worth it.

Neil Brooks
06-06-2010, 12:35 PM
Oh, I think Shiraz and Grizzly will forgive you :)

Nice saw !

Tony De Masi
06-06-2010, 12:44 PM
Great find Dave. I guess at times patience can be a virtue.

Also, if it makes you feel any better I picked up the 514X2 last week.:D

Tony

Mark Woodmark
06-06-2010, 5:48 PM
Thanks Dave, you are very welcome. I love my B20. I have cut some veneer so thin you could see through it. Great saw....Mark

Rick Markham
06-06-2010, 10:37 PM
Good snag Dave!!! Now all ya need to find is the equally good deal on a lathe :D I know... I know... I am always the bad apple in the bunch :cool:

Chris Nolin
06-07-2010, 10:45 AM
Wow, Dave. I'm just...I just...hang on a sec.

Whew...okay. Just got a little emotional there. What an incredible buy. Congrats, and you suck.

John Hedges
06-10-2010, 3:05 PM
Buyers remorse????? That's like feeling bad after you bought a Ferarri because you always pictured youself in a Yugo. Seriously though congrats, take it from a fellow B-20 owner as soon as you start using it the buyers remorse will quickly disapear

Bill ThompsonNM
06-13-2010, 4:02 PM
Great Deal Dave.. now I'm confused though. After you got your bandsaw it seems like everytime I look at the Phoenix craigslist, there are large bandsaws every day. For example this weekend..a veritable flood....

The 18 inch Laguna for $600 disappeared this morning
but still remaining were a:

20inch agazzani NRA bandsaw 3ph 5 hp $600

Powermatic 20 inch $1150

Murphy's law I guess. I can only hope to be so lucky when my budget permits.. Of course the things I'm looking for either get snapped up in seconds or are non existent..

Have fun with your saw!

Dave MacArthur
06-13-2010, 4:59 PM
You're exactly right!!
I called for that Laguna 18 this morning LOL, gone. There is also a G0513 for $300 this morning! That PM 20" I posted under Deals last week, still not sold. Unbelievable, after years of shopping it all hits the same week!

Doug Carpenter
06-13-2010, 5:54 PM
Dave you are my hero.

and you are only enabling my CL addiction.:)

Steve Bracken
06-13-2010, 6:43 PM
You're exactly right!!
I called for that Laguna 18 this morning LOL, gone. There is also a G0513 for $300 this morning! That PM 20" I posted under Deals last week, still not sold. Unbelievable, after years of shopping it all hits the same week!

I came close to buying that PM20, and I would have driven from OK to get it.

The price was a bit outside my max, and I now have a new 17" Polar Bear in my shop.