Help! Irish grind for gouges

[Jack Gaskins]

I'm have been searching for a video that shows you how to put an Irish grind on your turning gouges. Anyone know of a video? I use the wolverine with vari grind jig but I still am not doing something correctly.

[Ken Fitzgerald]

Go here and select the appropriate video...vari-grind

http://www.oneway.ca/multi-media/wolverine_videos.htm

[Jack Gaskins]

Go here and select the appropriate video...vari-grind

http://www.oneway.ca/multi-media/wolverine_videos.htm


I have tried that video several times but can not get any sound out of it. The video plays but no without sound.????

[bob svoboda]

I have tried that video several times but can not get any sound out of it. The video plays but no without sound.????
Jack, I went and watched and had sufficient sound. Do you maybe have muting going on somewhere in you system?

[Ken Fitzgerald]

Jack, I watched 2 different versions with no problems.

Muting engaged or volume turned down some place on your computer?

[Jack Gaskins]

Jack, I watched 2 different versions with no problems.

Muting engaged or volume turned down some place on your computer?


No mute. I found the videos (except the vari grind jig) on youtube and they had sound but when I go to the Oneway site I cant get sound. Really weird???:rolleyes:.

[Lance kanaby]

Both David Ellsworth and Lyle Jamieson have excellent videos on this type of gouge. I also believe that the AAW has some info too.

[Jack Gaskins]

Both David Ellsworth and Lyle Jamieson have excellent videos on this type of gouge. I also believe that the AAW has some info too.

Thanks, I will go look at their sites.

[Mauricio Ulloa]

Hi,

I use the Ellsworth Sharpening jig:

http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=146202&Category_Code=

The jig comes with instructions on how to set up your Wolverine to use it. You can also find them here: http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/store/Sharpening___Universal_Jigs___Ellsworth_Grinding_J ig___ellsworth_jig?Args=

If you observed the pics at both websites, the jig is slightly different. The new one is rounded and it has been done this way to reduce manufacturing costs.

There is some debate out there about these settings and if they provide the exact sharpening. I asked Mr. Ellsworth about it and he told me that the difference is minimal and there is practically no issue about it.

You can download his videos from www.iamplify.com or get his book or both. I believe that the video about bowls is the one that shows how to sharpen your gouge.

Good luck!

[Lance kanaby]

Hello Jack:

Another option for the Irish Grind is Don Geiger's Verticle Solution. I have this jig that works with the Wolverine system and I love it.
http://www.geigerssolutions.com/

[Lance kanaby]

Hello Jack:

Here is a link to Woodcraft's help files for the Ellsworth Gouge;
http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/woodturners/Images/pdfs/ellsworth_sharpening_jig.pdf

[Don Geiger]

Dear Fellow woodturners:

Here are couple of photos of the grind I use. This grind is easily obtainable using the VS system Lance Kanaby mentioned earlier. You can use it with the Ellsworth or the Vari-Grind jigs.

Since the shape of the flute has a direct influence on the results, it is best achieved on a gouge with a parabolic flute. I can obtain this grind with the Crown, Taylor or Thompson (Doug Thompson calls his the "V" flute) deep fluted bowl gouges.

The tip angle is 60 degrees. If you measure the angle of the two planes on the side grinds (viewable on top of the gouge) they are about 70 degrees from each other. Any steeper and the gouge becomes too aggressive on the inside of bowls and makes the inside finishing cut very difficult.

I do at least 95% of all my bowl turning with this grind on my gouges.


Don Geiger

[Wayne Kuhn]

....and it will help with the troubleshooting. Grind too short, too long, sides concave vs convex etc.