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Eric McCune
03-07-2010, 8:13 PM
I'm in the middle of converting my 94 year old detached garage 16x18 to a full-time shop. Yesterday while installing a new door, I went to open a pack of shims with a utility knife. Well, I proceeded to open the knuckle on my thumb about 5/8 an inch long. Luckily only a few stitches. No tendon or ligament damage.

As I'm going to get stitched up, I started to think about overall shop safety. Things happen fast. It reconfirmed my decision to buy a SS PCS. I would hate to have the same drive to the ER holding my fingers while beating myself up because I could have avoided the problem.

I'm new to the forum and I can't tell all of you how much all of your information as helped me plan my new shop.

Van Huskey
03-07-2010, 8:34 PM
Welcome. Understand this post will either get a LOT of posts or very few. This post was like throwing a grenade into a locked auditorium with 1,000 people inside.

Congrats on the PCS.

michael case
03-07-2010, 8:39 PM
You will love the Sawstop just for the quality.

Paul Ryan
03-07-2010, 9:04 PM
There has been a bundle of sawstop threads going lately. I am kind of scared to say too much today. It is a fine saw, you will enjoy it. And welcome to the creek.

Todd Willhoit
03-07-2010, 9:41 PM
Get one of these.

http://www.martorusa.com/

Todd

Gary Pennington
03-07-2010, 9:42 PM
My experience with a utility knife is pretty simple. Used as a tool in my right hand, it's primary function is to inflict some degree of injury to my left hand.

Gary

Eric McCune
03-07-2010, 9:59 PM
You said it Gary. Left Thumb.

Here's the bad part. I just bought the utility knife. It was a Stanley with two blades. One was a hooked blade. I had never used a hooked blade and it got me. Had I used my old knife with single blade, never would have had a problem.

Live and learn.

David Prince
03-07-2010, 10:17 PM
Welcome. Understand this post will either get a LOT of posts or very few. This post was like throwing a grenade into a locked auditorium with 1,000 people inside.

Congrats on the PCS.

Reminds me of a fun time camping. (tell everyone as you do it) and Toss a full package of bottle-rockets into the campfire when everyone is sitting around it. :D:D:D

AND... we all know that using a tool for something other than its intended purpose USUALLY results in injury. A hook blade isn't really made for opening packages of shims!

Van Huskey
03-07-2010, 10:40 PM
You said it Gary. Left Thumb.

Here's the bad part. I just bought the utility knife. It was a Stanley with two blades. One was a hooked blade. I had never used a hooked blade and it got me. Had I used my old knife with single blade, never would have had a problem.

Live and learn.

It is always my left index finger, I have been shaving one side of it down for years.

Van Huskey
03-07-2010, 10:47 PM
Reminds me of a fun time camping. (tell everyone as you do it) and Toss a full package of bottle-rockets into the campfire when everyone is sitting around it. :D:D:D

!

I was "somewhere" "sometime" wearing some mottled green and brown while working for one of the major force dealers in the world sitting around a camp fire and the "legend" of Ranger Roulette came up. A probably mythical (or alcohol induced) "GAME" where a Ranger team sits around a fire and someone drops in a 5.56X45 round into the fire, the last one in their set wins. An hour or so later one crafty soul threw a handful of blanks in the fire, hard to decern live from blanks in a heartbeat. We never moved as fast under actual enemy fire. Thank goodness we were 20 or more klics from any hot zones.

Don Morris
03-08-2010, 9:26 AM
I'm so sorry Eric you discovered Sawmillcreek. This will cost you. Guaranteed!

Rod Sheridan
03-08-2010, 10:43 AM
Eric, welcome to the forum.

I'm pleased to hear that you're buying a sawstop, and that your motivating injury wasn't worse.

I'm always doing dumb things, like sticking a screwdriver in my hand. If I had been using a nutdriver it wouldn't have slipped, and it wouldn't have been sharp.

My minor accident prone ways became such a joke in the shop, that one year I was given a first aid kit as a Christmas gift, that was stuffed full of band aids.

What was that saying my dad used, "more speed , less haste"???

Welcome to the forum, I hope you enjoy your new saw........Regards, Rod.

Paul Ryan
03-08-2010, 10:55 AM
I'm so sorry Eric you discovered Sawmillcreek. This will cost you. Guaranteed!


Isn't that the truth. It is a great community and I have met some great friends. However the deals and discount section has cost me dearly. All for the better though, it has saved me many head scratchers in the shop.

Kyle Iwamoto
03-08-2010, 10:57 AM
The SS is a great saw, you will be happy.

MY utility knife has a break. (not a typo) I cut my left hand, I take a break. I just sliced my thumb 2 days ago....:mad: LOML asked what happened. "NOTHING".... (I was stupid....) It is amazing how sharp a new blade is.

Anyone else have a mini first aid kit as standard equipment in your shop?

Jonathan Link
03-08-2010, 11:41 AM
I don't own a SS. I managed to secure a Ridgid R4511 for $299, at some point I'll probably step up to a SS. However, I've noticed the debates about the saw, and thought I'd add my own obersvation to the debate.
I think the saw has an unintended safety feature, besides even the braking device. The fact, that the user is probably thinking about engaging the braking device, thereby destroying the brake and likely his blade as well and costing him $200-$300 in the process.
People are funny, we can much more easily comprehend the cost of a blade/brake replacement than the cost of reattaching fingers, amputation or maiming. It becomes more real for us, so it is something for us to latch onto.
I've noticed those on the con side of the SS seem to focus on the fact that they are safe because they do something or are thinking about safety or they do X before they use a tool, while discounting that SS owners are probably doing the same things, which is brought into a more immediate focus, because they have a tangible idea of what the cost of a mistake is.
Don't get me wrong, I approach every piece of equipment with safety in mind. Safety is a process, though, and anything that helps an individual focus on the process is a good thing.

Van Huskey
03-08-2010, 2:26 PM
The SS is a great saw, you will be happy.

MY utility knife has a break. (not a typo) I cut my left hand, I take a break. I just sliced my thumb 2 days ago....:mad: LOML asked what happened. "NOTHING".... (I was stupid....) It is amazing how sharp a new blade is.

Anyone else have a mini first aid kit as standard equipment in your shop?

Someone actually posted a self retracting box knife (but I don't remember the tread) yesterday. When it leave one cutting surface it pops back in, wouldn't have saved me every time but I need to track one down.

Van Huskey
03-08-2010, 2:29 PM
I'm always doing dumb things, like sticking a screwdriver in my hand. If I had been using a nutdriver it wouldn't have slipped, and it wouldn't have been sharp.

My minor accident prone ways became such a joke in the shop, that one year I was given a first aid kit as a Christmas gift, that was stuffed full of band aids.

What was that saying my dad used, "more speed , less haste"???

Welcome to the forum, I hope you enjoy your new saw........Regards, Rod.


Ron, I do NOT mean this sarcastically but I am honestly amazed you are accident prone, even on a minor level, just seems juxtaposed to how I "see" you.

Eric Gustafson
03-08-2010, 2:29 PM
like sticking a screwdriver in my hand.

You had to remeind of a accident I would rather forget. A friend of mine was trying to pry something from a car he was restoring. He had both hands on a screwdriver pointing up. It broke loose and the screwdriver went straight up his nose. He went to the emergency room with the screwdriver still stuck in his nose. Fortunately, it did not reach his brain.

Rod Sheridan
03-08-2010, 3:08 PM
Ron, I do NOT mean this sarcastically but I am honestly amazed you are accident prone, even on a minor level, just seems juxtaposed to how I "see" you.


I'm not any longer, however I sure had a stack of dumb small cut injuries for a while when I was much younger.

Nothing that ever need more than a band aid, including the time in Grade 11 that I burned my nose with a soldering iron a week before Christmas.

I sure detested whomever invented the Rudolph story for a while:D.

Regards, Rod.

Rod Sheridan
03-08-2010, 3:10 PM
You had to remeind of a accident I would rather forget. A friend of mine was trying to pry something from a car he was restoring. He had both hands on a screwdriver pointing up. It broke loose and the screwdriver went straight up his nose. He went to the emergency room with the screwdriver still stuck in his nose. Fortunately, it did not reach his brain.

YOW!

Geez, now I'm going to put tennis balls on all the ends of my pointy tools.:eek:

Regards, Rod.

Gary Pennington
03-08-2010, 5:17 PM
An hour or so later one crafty soul threw a handful of blanks in the fire, hard to decern live from blanks in a heartbeat. We never moved as fast under actual enemy fire. Thank goodness we were 20 or more klics from any hot zones.

Geez, what some guys do for entertainment. To kill time on the flightline we would wiggle the projectiles out of 7.62mm tracer rounds, lay them around on the ground in different patterns, then connect them with gunpowder trails from the cartridges. Of course we all smoked then so having a Zippo to torch off the show was a given.

The fact we were doing this in the shade of a Huey Gunship laden with JP-4, thousands of rounds of 7.62mm and 14-2.75" rockets just didn't occurr to us to be exceptionally stupid.

Kent A Bathurst
03-08-2010, 5:39 PM
.........Of course we all smoked then........

Gary - I just spit a mouthful of Sierra Nevada Pale Ale at the monitor. I'm sure you guys were smoking.........I don't need any details.

Far out, man. :D:D:D

Gary Pennington
03-08-2010, 9:33 PM
.........I don't need any details.

Far out, man. :D:D:D

Kent,
Oops--didn't think that post thru before I hit the keyboard. It was mostly Marlboros for me back then... and plenty of beer. Sorry you lost your SNPA.

Gary