#17 Chinaberry - the 'tween bowl

[John Keeton]

I had plans for another Claro/Curly Maple lidded bowl, but the piece of Claro I cut into just wasn't up to what I wanted. It has some checks/cracks that will go through the bowl. I will end up finishing it out, but I wanted something really nice for the lidded piece. My order from Mike Smith came in today!! Some drop dead gorgeous Claro, so that project is back on track!:D

But, "between" turnings (thus the 'tween bowl), I needed to feed the addiction. This bowl isn't anything special, but like I said - my demons were crying out for another "fix.":D
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9.5" x 3". I really like the color of the Chinaberry, and it was easy to turn, but a little "furry" and kind of difficult to get a good sanded finish. The softer areas of the grain want to sand out. I am not sure I would use it again, but, Ms. Keeton likes it, so maybe.;)

I am still working on form, and trying to develop a feel for what is right. Let me know what you like or don't like about this one. Thanks!!

[Bernie Weishapl]

That is a beauty John. Really like the rim treatment.

[David E Keller]

I think this one looks really nice... Your better half has got a good eye for turnings it seems.

The color on that piece is really nice, and I like the rim and foot details.

[gary Zimmel]

Another sweet bowl John.
Nice touch on the inside rim detail..

And how come you can post a project while some of us are still at work...:D

[Tony De Masi]

Very nice John. Love the color of that Chinaberry. One question on the rim treatment though. Are you turning the bead with a skew/other tool or are you using a beading tool? Just curious as the bead seems very well executed.

Tony

[David Christopher]

"I am still working on form, and trying to develop a feel for what is right. Let me know what you like or don't like about this one. Thanks!!"

John, I think you have the form thing down. this bowl is very nice and if Ms Keeton likes it, thats all that matters

[Frank Van Atta]

Very nice; seems you can never go wrong with an ogee shape.

[Doug W Swanson]

John,

I think it looks great. I really like the rim treatment you did on the inside of the bowl. It adds a little flair to it and it matches the bottom really well.

The color looks nice too.

I take it you are keeping the bowl for your wife!

Doug

[Robert McGowen]

John, I think that you nailed the form on this one. It looks very nice in the profile shot. The inner bead is interesting and looks great. I much prefer this one to #16! Of course, that is just my opinion. :cool:

I hope that the bead does not get worn down or chipped with use, with it being on the inside of the bowl. Do you plan the form around the intended use or the use around the intended form? :rolleyes: Of course, the way that you are going, this will probably be in a museum or collection and will never really be used! :D

Waiting on #18.........

[Donny Lawson]

Another very nice piece John.I wish I had your tallent.By the way your signiture on the bottom, how do you get that on there?Is it something that you had made up and just put a # on it and stick it to the bottom or what? I like it.
Donny

[Toney Robertson]

Very nice John.

Toney

[Roland Martin]

John, Chinaberry is new to me, very good looking wood. Very interesting detail on this bowl, beaded rim/foot, smooth ogee. Very nice work.

[Steve Schlumpf]

Nice work John! Very pretty wood! Really like the ogee form! Well done!

[James Combs]

Very nice John. My wife wants 3.:D

BTW do you make your little "signature rings" or purchase them?

[Matt Ranum]

This is very nice John, I love the way the rim came out. Everyone of these out does the one before, can't wait to see them when you hit that #100 mark.:D

[charlie knighton]

very nice....pm sent

[John Keeton]

You guys are great! You are kind enough to keep looking at these things, and I appreciate the supportive comments.

Roland, Chinaberry was new to me, as well. Apparently, it is an invasive, fast growing tree throughout the South, but not in KY. Mike Smith told me that they aren't very strong, and blow down a lot in storms. But, getting one of any size isn't common.

One question on the rim treatment though. Are you turning the bead with a skew/other tool or are you using a beading tool?Toney, I roughed the bead with the bowl gouge, and then finished it with a Thompson 3/8" detail gouge.


Do you plan the form around the intended use or the use around the intended form?Robert, none of them have an "intended use" yet! They are sitting all over the place, and I am hoping my kids will take some of them!!:eek: At this point, I am just experimenting with various forms, cuts, etc. - like a kid in a toy shop. I thought at some point I would settle into "what I liked", but it seems I like it all.

Just learned the power company is taking out 6-7 trees in the front of my neighbors acreage - couple walnuts, Bradford pears, redbud, hickory. BL (before lathe) I would have felt bad for him, but my first question was "can I get some of that wood?" I tried to get the smile off my face!:o


By the way your signature on the bottom, how do you get that on there?Is it something that you had made up and just put a # on it and stick it to the bottom or what? I like it.
Donny


BTW do you make your little "signature rings" or purchase them?These are 1.5" maple and cherry medallions that have been cut with a laser, and recessed for a penny. Can't find any 2010 pennies yet! Another creeker, George Perzel, made them for me, but I am sure you could get someone local with a laser machine to do them. These aren't plywood - they are cut from solid stock.

[Curt Fuller]

Just learned the power company is taking out 6-7 trees in the front of my neighbors acreage - couple walnuts, Bradford pears, redbud, hickory. BL (before lathe) I would have felt bad for him, but my first question was "can I get some of that wood?" I tried to get the smile off my face!:o


Ah, the sweet music of the chainsaw calling from the woods!

John, another very nice bowl. You have a great eye for form. Beautiful wood too.

[Leo Van Der Loo]

Nice one John, pretty color also, I was wondering if you could use some thinned shellac to stiffen those hairs up, and then sand them off.
I find with Walnut that I quite often get some raised grain especially if there's sapwood, but after a coat of tung has hardened for a day I can easily remove them with some 0000 steel-wool.
The ogee shape is nice, but it looks like you have a bit of a bulge about halve way up, unless it is the picture tricking me, the bead looks good on the inside, as I would not expect a bowl/plate like this one to ever be used as a working bowl, it's just too nice for that, well done John

[Roger Chandler]

John,

You do great work! Chinaberry? where did you get that from, and is it commonly available?

Great form and the rim treatment is very nice indeed - perhaps the greatest is to have a spouse in your corner cheering you on! Mine does as well...

[John Keeton]

...I was wondering if you could use some thinned shellac to stiffen those hairs up, and then sand them off.
The ogee shape is nice, but it looks like you have a bit of a bulge about halve way up, unless it is the picture tricking me...Leo, I used BLO and a couple of coats of shellac, buffing with some medium and 000 steel wool between coats, forward and reverse. Seemed to help. I think the "bulge" is the pic. I ended up with a pretty smooth curve on this one. It may be a reflection from one of the growth rings??


Chinaberry? where did you get that from, and is it commonly available?This piece came from Mike Smith, www.easternncwoodworkers.com (http://www.easternncwoodworkers.com) Great guy, and has some fantastic wood at very reasonable prices. No affilliation - well, that isn't quite true. I think I have made his last two truck payments!!:eek:


Ah, the sweet music of the chainsaw calling from the woods!Curt, the good part is - the power company cuts it all up and stacks it. All I have to do is throw it in the truck!;) They are putting in new lines out in our area, and they have cut a bunch of trees. I have already scavanged some walnut, cottonwood (one of your woods!), and some sycamore.

[Brian Effinger]

Beautiful, John - the form, the color & details. In fact, I'd say this is the best form yet. I also really enjoy seeing the little details that you put into each piece, such as the rim bead and foot bead in this one.

So I think I have to ask a question. Are you ever going to go back to work, or just retire and turn all day? :D

[BILL DONAHUE]

Looks very special to me. Not only the rim looks special but the foot does as well. It's a very nice looking design.

[Tom Giacomo]

Very unique bowl, I like it.

[Dale Bright]

John, you are really doing some great turning. I like this bowl a lot and I especially like the rim treatment.

Dale

[steven carter]

John,

Very nice bowl. I agree that the "bulge" is an optical illusion caused by the growth ring. I've not turned chinaberry, is the wood fairly light? I'm also looking forward to the cottonwood you procured from the power company cutting. I've not done cottonwood either, we have some on our property, but I don't want to cut any of them. They give great shade in the summer, but are a pain though with all the falling limbs, maybe a big limb will come down and I can turn it.

Steve

[Gary Chester]

Just like the rest... I like it!!

And I'm very jealous of what the power company is providing for you!!!

[Bob Bergstrom]

We just had a demo at our woodturning club and the subject of the ogee form was discussed. Our demonstrator (professional bowl turner) said that most turner overdo the curves on the ogee. His recommendation was to keep it simple. Just enough to show the curve without the dominance. Most beginning turners make "a highly technical shape" trying to show their skill. Making the simple shape beautiful is one of the true challenges of bowl turning

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[James Roberts]

What's not to like? You've gotten this "form and feel thing" in the bag, John. I really enjoy seeing your work.

[John Keeton]

Your kind comments are, again, certainly appreciated. :o

Steven, the Chinaberry is very light, and obviously a fast growing tree. Apparently the cottonwood spalts easily, and I am going to try to get some to do just that. It will be interesting to see what happens.


Most beginning turners make "a highly technical shape" trying to show their skill. Making the simple shape beautiful is one of the true challenges of bowl turning.Bob, I can certainly relate to that!!! And, I admit to overdoing it, as well as just plain not getting it right - but, it ain't for lack of effort!!:D:D