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Brian Kent
02-23-2010, 10:10 AM
A whole litter of new baby rabbets!
They are multiplying!!!


http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&cat=1,41182,64808&p=64808
Richard Magbanua
02-23-2010, 10:59 AM
Dag-gonnit! You beat me...
here's a pic...

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/Woodworking/Planes/05p7501s1a.jpg
Jim Belair
02-23-2010, 11:00 AM
They sure are cute. I'm just curious what one would use them for that couldn't be done with a router plane (which has bullnose capabilities to boot)? Cleanning up small shoulders I suppose, but then a lower cutting angle would be better.

Help me understand please.

Jim B
David Gendron
02-23-2010, 11:12 AM
Look like LV is in to the micro tools market.... Maybe they will get a better marking gauge soon! Or even better, a realy stif framed copping saw! What about some HAF for there planes....
James Scheffler
02-23-2010, 12:49 PM
Am I missing something? How do you make a fine adjustment of the depth of cut? :confused:

Jim
Rob Young
02-23-2010, 3:34 PM
Am I missing something? How do you make a fine adjustment of the depth of cut? :confused:

Jim

http://www.leevalley.com/shopping/Instructions.aspx?p=64897

Loosen the screw at the top and nudge the blade.
James Scheffler
02-23-2010, 3:48 PM
http://www.leevalley.com/shopping/Instructions.aspx?p=64897

Loosen the screw at the top and nudge the blade.

What I've found is that tools without adjusters are best adjusted by tapping them with a small hammer. When nudging, it can be hard to prevent an adjustment that is too large, or you can mess up the lateral adjustment (or both). It could be just me, but with my small spokeshave I've found that loosening and pushing never works right.

Maybe you put a small screwdriver in there and use it as a lever to get an incremental adjustment. I don't know....

Jim
Jim Belair
02-23-2010, 3:54 PM
Jim

If you open the instruction sheet on the LV website it says that's exactly how it's adjusted- by levering with a small screwdriver.

Jim B
Rob Lee
02-23-2010, 4:01 PM
Hi -

The low bed angle makes setting projection manually quite easy... feeding the blade 1/32" results in a depth of cut change of just over .008" .... a 3.7 to 1 ratio of feed to projection...

Cheers -

Rob
Brian Kent
02-23-2010, 6:08 PM
Dag-gonnit! You beat me...
here's a pic...

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/Woodworking/Planes/05p7501s1a.jpg

Sorry, Richard. Next new Lee Valley tool I'll wait for you :D !
James Taglienti
02-23-2010, 6:36 PM
Jim, there are a few advantages to using these in a rabbet as opposed to a router plane.
Those look great... looks like Lee Valley is tarting up their planes a bit... As for their advantage over a router plane, the rabbet plane lets you make adjustments to the joint without having to reset the blade every pass, also it registers inside the rabbet as opposed to on the face of the workpiece. Maybe this would prevent inadvertent damage caused by the base of the router plane but thats kind of a stretch. Also they can be used up against other surfaces, with a clamped down fence, and to chamfer the corners of a dado or rabbet. They are good for trimming joinery like tenons. I've used rabbet planes in conjunction with a router plane IE do the bulk of the work with the rabbet and make some cleanup passes with the router to ensure the bottom of the joint is dead on. They can do a lot of things that i didnt mention too. Rabbet planes are easily my favorite in the shop and i have way more than i need but i JUST CANT STOP.
David Gendron
02-24-2010, 12:29 AM
Ok, what is the main difference between a rabet plane and a shoulder plane?
truitt sosebee
02-24-2010, 8:57 AM
Why did you have to post that? Now you've cost me some money.
James Taglienti
02-24-2010, 9:07 AM
David I always thought the difference between the rabbet plane and shoulder plane was the angle of the blade... shoulder plane has a lower angle. But there are so many low angle rabbets out there... when i hear shoulder plane I always think of the big heavy norris infills. I think that any fine rabbet plane will work for trimming end grain as long as it's sharp and you support the exit side of the workpiece.
Eric Brown
02-24-2010, 7:07 PM
Mostly the difference between a rabbet and shoulder plane is the cutting angle. A rabbet is with the grain and the blade angle is typically steeper and usually bevel down with a fixed mouth. A shoulder plane cuts across end grain and is typically lower with bevel up and usually have adjustable mouths. You could get a bevel up with different blades for both operations but you might have some clearance issues.

Eric