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David Hayes
10-22-2004, 10:54 AM
Ok, I've used HUT Crystal Coat and I've used the HUT wax sticks for finishing pens.

The question is: can you top coat the Crystal Coat with the wax sticks and if so, any input on whether this will "extend" the life of the pen's finish?

Dave

John Miliunas
10-22-2004, 11:33 AM
David, not sure I can answer your question per the specifics you give. I like the Hut finishes, but they do not seem to hold their sheen for a long time. :( I have found two things, which will help to hold the sheen. 1) Use the thin CA glue to polish with. You need to be a bit careful with that, but it does work better than just Hut alone. 2) This is one which I have proven out for myself: I often use a 50/50 mix of poly/naphtha for my flatwork finish. While cruising through the Penn State catalog some time ago, I saw they have a finish, which you dip your completed barrels in, prior to assembly. I figured that maybe the 50/50 should work as well. I tried it. It does! I did a pen in Padauk a couple years ago, which is what I experimented on. This is my *daily* user. I'm on my third ink cartridge with it and it still retains a nice sheen! :)

To do it, I simply put the barrels on separate wire hangers, dipped them, then let them thoroughly dry. Prior to assembly, I chased the insides of the barrels with my pen mill and I was good to go. YMMV, but it sure worked nice for me! :cool:

John M. Cioffi
10-22-2004, 12:31 PM
Hi Dave,

Yes! to my surprize, this is exactly what I have been doing. I Put the dark(satin) wax on 1st,followed by the White(gloss) wax;then I apply the Crystal Coat & polish it in. It really works & lasts,also. I do not use the dark wax on light colored woods.
Try it, you will like it. Make sure that each coat is completely dry,before applying the next one & use different cloths for each.

Have fun,
John:D

John Szarek
10-22-2004, 1:38 PM
Not to take away from this forum, but you might want to look at www.penturners.org (http://www.penturners.org)

We have a whole forum just for finishing. There are quite a few tricks there for creating long lasting finishes.

Ken Salisbury
10-24-2004, 3:08 PM
Ok, I've used HUT Crystal Coat and I've used the HUT wax sticks for finishing pens.

The question is: can you top coat the Crystal Coat with the wax sticks and if so, any input on whether this will "extend" the life of the pen's finish?

Dave

For the majority of pens I make I apply Crystal Coat followed by Hut's white wax stick. The trick to a good finish using these 2 products is heat. I apply both and using paper towels squeezing hard enough to generate heat (the more the better) resulting in better penetration of the product into the wood.

For a more glossy look (which I don't prefer by the way) there are various methods of applying CA glue that work well. Most of which are very time consuming -- and time is $.

Dick Parr
10-24-2004, 4:32 PM
After you have applied your finish, put a coat of Renaissance Wax on the finished piece (Pen, Stopper, bowl or whatever), let it stand for 15-20 seconds and then wipe it off. It will not show finger prints and will not loose its shine. I use it over the top of Mylands friction polish.

http://www.arizonasilhouette.com/Renaissance_%20Wax.htm

It's Pricey but good. :D

Dale Thompson
10-29-2004, 11:25 PM
David,
I like EEE Ultra Shine and a coat of Carnuba wax as a final finish on my pens and other small turnings. Realistically, though, if your turnings will only be "looked" at, any mentioned finish will work just fine. Conversely, if your turning will be used extensively, NO finish will hold up.

Don't panic! That is a GOOD thing! ;)

The warm patina generated by the skin oils of the human hand is far more interesting and comforting than some "plastic" coating invented as a substitute. ;) DUH!! What's wrong with my logic - besides the source? :D :D

Dale T.