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Louis Brandt
01-09-2010, 7:14 PM
Hello,

I want an oilless pin nailer. I'm talking about a 23 gauge tool. I have a Porter-Cable finish nailer and a Porter-Cable brad nailer, and they are both oilless. I like oilless nailers. But as far as I know, Porter-Cable’s pin nailer is NOT oilless.

I don’t care what brand I buy, but does anyone know who makes an oilless pin nailer?

Thanks,
Louis

Van Huskey
01-09-2010, 7:41 PM
I am unaware of any oil-less 23g pinners, my Grex is oil type and I have used both Senco and Bostich versions and I am 99% sure they both take oil. I use a Cambell Hausfeld in line lubricator that just stays attached to the Grex (since it is my only oil tool keeping my hose clean) it is small and doesn't weigh anything.

Dale Lesak
01-09-2010, 8:45 PM
Why a oiless pinner?

Zach England
01-09-2010, 8:46 PM
I have never put oil in my senco. That makes it sort of oilless.

Ray Newman
01-09-2010, 9:09 PM
My GREX 23 g. pinner is about 5 years old and it is oiless.

Louis Brandt
01-09-2010, 9:21 PM
My GREX 23 g. pinner is about 5 years old and it is oiless.

Would you tell me the model name and number of your GREX pinner?
Thanks,
Louis

Louis Brandt
01-09-2010, 9:22 PM
Why a oiless pinner?

Because I've read many postings on this forum that say that a gun that uses oil can leave oil on your work.
Louis

Van Huskey
01-09-2010, 9:28 PM
My GREX 23 g. pinner is about 5 years old and it is oiless.


Which Grex do you have? My P635 is definately a oil mist tool, just checked the instructions to double check.

Particularly with a gun as small as a pinner it will go quite a while (maybe a lifetime depending on how much you use it) without an oil mist but with my little on tool luber I don't know why one would bother, but I haven't had any issues of oil on my work. If you are oiling back at the compressor your hose gets oiled and thus can be an issue for other applications but not if you oil at the tool.

Ray Newman
01-09-2010, 9:37 PM
Van H: I just checked the shop and it does have the oiler. I was thinking of my SENCO's. Zorry 'bout that....

Van Huskey
01-09-2010, 9:40 PM
Van H: I just checked the shop and it does have the oiler. I was thinking of my SENCO's. Zorry 'bout that....

No problem! When you said that I had to go out to the shop to check myself. I knew I had an oler on it just wondered if I had read the manual wrong!

Louis Brandt
01-09-2010, 10:14 PM
Van H: I just checked the shop and it does have the oiler. I was thinking of my SENCO's. Zorry 'bout that....

Are you saying that you have a Senco oil-less pinner? If so, can you give me the model number of that one?
Louis

Dave Lehnert
01-09-2010, 10:43 PM
I own a Senco and it does take oil. Model SFN10 (I think)

Larry Edgerton
01-10-2010, 7:49 AM
I guess I do not know if you are talking a pinner, or a micro pinner. My Senco SLP20's are oil less, but my Senco micro pinner requires oil. I oile them up and shoot a dozen or so pins at scrap, wipe it down, and do not worry about it. Have had no finish problems. I do not oil again until I start to have misfire issues, then I repeat the process.

Back when I still had Paslodes that required oil I wrapped the exhaust port with cotton cloth taped in place. Caught the oil and made it quieter.

I use air sanders that require oil. I route the exhaust to a inline gas filter that not only catches the oil, but works a a muffler making them much more pleasant to be around.

Louis Brandt
01-10-2010, 9:45 AM
I guess I do not know if you are talking a pinner, or a micro pinner.

In my post, I referred to 23 gauge. I don't know whether you call that a pin or a micro-pin. I just want to shoot that gauge, and I'd like to do it with an oil-less gun.
Louis

johnny means
01-10-2010, 12:34 PM
I've got a Grex that sees very heavy use (100 or more pins a day 300days a year). In five years I've never put a drop of oil in it, shoots pins like it did the day bought it. In fact, in ten years of woodworking I have never oilled a nail gun. So I am not so sure it serves any purpose.

Harry Hagan
01-10-2010, 1:23 PM
I use this. It's oilless.

Senco SLP20




http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&source=hp&q=slp20+senco&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=BRlKS7qqD5GplAfLzvkP&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CCkQrQQwAg

Kyle Iwamoto
01-10-2010, 2:56 PM
Are there any electric pinners worth buying? No one reccomended one.... I was looking at a Rigid at the BORG.

Louis Brandt
01-10-2010, 3:35 PM
I use this. It's oilless.

Senco SLP20




http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&source=hp&q=slp20+senco&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=BRlKS7qqD5GplAfLzvkP&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CCkQrQQwAg

That's an 18 gauge brad nailer. I already have a brad nailer. I'm looking for a 23 gauge pin nailer that's oilless.
Louis

Louis Brandt
01-10-2010, 3:39 PM
I've got a Grex that sees very heavy use (100 or more pins a day 300days a year). In five years I've never put a drop of oil in it, shoots pins like it did the day bought it. In fact, in ten years of woodworking I have never oilled a nail gun. So I am not so sure it serves any purpose.

What's the model number of your Grex? Is it a 23 gauge pinner? And does the user manual say that you should oil it?
Louis

Chip Lindley
01-10-2010, 6:09 PM
23 gauge tools are most commonly referred to as a *headless pinner*. Usually 1-3/8" max, but

A Google search turns up 21 gauge (combo brad/headless pinners) by Cadex and Omer. Nothing 20 gauge.

As for oilless, I don't find any such guns. Many use their pinners without oil, regardless of instructions. Unless you contemplate industrial assembly where the pinner will be used 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, any decent pinner should last a long time @ home!

Van Huskey
01-10-2010, 8:12 PM
23 gauge tools are most commonly referred to as a *headless pinner*. Usually 1-3/8" max, but

A Google search turns up 21 gauge (combo brad/headless pinners) by Cadex and Omer. Nothing 20 gauge.

As for oilless, I don't find any such guns. Many use their pinners without oil, regardless of instructions. Unless you contemplate industrial assembly where the pinner will be used 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, any decent pinner should last a long time @ home!

EZ Fasten also sells a 21 gauge pinner, which can also shoot brads.

As far as using oil that was my point, as far as I know all pinners are oil type but without oil in a home shop they may well last a lifetime.

Louis Brandt
01-10-2010, 8:17 PM
Many use their pinners without oil, regardless of instructions. Unless you contemplate industrial assembly where the pinner will be used 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, any decent pinner should last a long time @ home!

Ok, I appreciate all of the responses. Maybe my question really ought to be this: Do those of you who use pinners (23 gauge, e.g.) oil them from time to time? If not, then I guess that I don't need to worry about getting an oilless pinner. I just didn't want to have to worry about oiling it. I won't be using the gun very much, just once in a while.
Louis

Gerry Grzadzinski
01-10-2010, 8:34 PM
We had some Senco's in our shop that never got oiled and worked fine for a few years.... then stopped working correctly, until they were oiled. :rolleyes:

Harlan Barnhart
01-10-2010, 8:53 PM
Do those of you who use pinners (23 gauge, e.g.) oil them from time to time? I just didn't want to have to worry about oiling it. I won't be using the gun very much, just once in a while.
Louis
I have been using a grex pinner for six or seven years regularly but not every day and I have never put oiled it. If you are not in industrial production, I don't think you will have a problem.