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Mike Cruz
11-08-2009, 11:17 PM
So, as some of you might have read, a few months ago, I upgraded the motor on my Ridgid Band Saw from a 3/4 HP to a 1.5 HP. I saw this on CL and thought maybe it would make my saw resaw THAT much better. What do you think? :D

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/tls/1457237434.html

Charles Krieger
11-08-2009, 11:22 PM
That would make one great dust collector but I'm afraid my garage walls might implode!

Tom Veatch
11-08-2009, 11:24 PM
That motor would probably never even notice it was connected to a load. Certainly would never work up a sweat. I say go for it!:D

Kyle Iwamoto
11-08-2009, 11:28 PM
You could rig it up to run your BS and DC at the same time... That way you won't need to turn the DC on and off all the time.
Oh, after reinforcing the walls so they won't implode.:)

Mike Cruz
11-08-2009, 11:49 PM
Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The dust collector!!!!!! I didn't think of that!!!! Maybe if I added some sort of pully system, I could increase the speed of the blade and get around, I don't know, 4000 CFM out of it!!!! SWEET idea! THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike Cruz
11-08-2009, 11:51 PM
Now that I think of it, all I can think of is the contraption Dick Van Dyke had in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, with all the cables and pullys. I could run my entire shop with one motor! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

Jeff Willard
11-08-2009, 11:53 PM
You guys think too small. Devise a line shaft and run the whole shop off of it.

Mike Cruz
11-08-2009, 11:59 PM
Great minds think alike, Jeff....

Kent A Bathurst
11-09-2009, 12:33 PM
You guys think too small. Devise a line shaft and run the whole shop off of it.

EXACTLY - and if you orient the overhead line shaft correctly, you can bolt fan blades on it to move all the dust and fumes right out the shop door. Think of a ceiling fan mounted with the blades vertical, spinning at 1770 RPM. Bolt everything in the shop down first, though - tip speed on 24" fan blades will be about 120mph.

Wayne Jolly
11-09-2009, 3:27 PM
With all those ceiling fans, wouldn't the shop take off?

xeddog

I guess the weight of the motor would hold it down.

Peter Quinn
11-09-2009, 9:59 PM
They pulled one of those out of the small DC system at work this summer. They had to hire a special mechanical company with a small portable "crane" set up to get it off the top of the cyclone in the dust garage. Heavy is an understatement.

But really, it works just 10hr/day, six days a week full out for ten years without any maintenance and then just gives up! Its hard to buy quality anymore.:D One thing is for sure, it would add mass to your BS. Can you fit a 7" resaw blade on the rigid? Or you could chop the shaft and use it as a slave to run a BIG phase convertor?

tyler mckee
11-09-2009, 11:30 PM
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/1455035173.html

strap that bad boy to your bandsaw and go to work

David DeCristoforo
11-09-2009, 11:47 PM
That's not a motor... This
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107651&d=1232572531
is a motor!

Lewis Cobb
11-10-2009, 9:07 AM
That's not a motor... This
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107651&d=1232572531
is a motor!

I wonder what the "BF" means in the model number of those ?

Mike Cruz
11-10-2009, 9:15 AM
Sweet!, but at $2400 it becomes cost prohibitive (for me at least). That is why I liked the 30 HP...for only $500. At that price, at least I can dream.....

Mike Cruz
11-10-2009, 9:25 AM
Bona Fied?

Jeff Willard
11-10-2009, 11:48 AM
I wonder what the "BF" means in the model number of those ?

We all know what it means :eek:-but this is a family oriented forum, so it should remain unspoken.

Chip Lindley
11-10-2009, 2:01 PM
30HP would make "Tool Time Tim" a happy man! The whole neighborhood suffers a *brown-out* when there is bandsawing in progress!!

But, truly, anything more than 1.5hp on a 14" BS would be wayy wasteful! A serious 1hp *farm duty* motor on mine is more than enough!

Just for fun...I wonder what size wiring would be needed for a 30HP motor?? Whewww!

Mike Cruz
11-10-2009, 2:23 PM
Okay, just to clarify, I was joking about hooking it up to my Band Saw. Come on guys, of course it would be a waste...

Now on my 15 inch Planer...THAT might be a possibility! ;)

On a serious note. Assuming you have two BS's: a 14" and an 18". The 14" with a riser, and both with 2HP motors. Put a 1" blade (I think I'm allowed to do that on my 14, if not, lets say 3/4" blade) on both of them. Now, try to resaw a 10" thick piece of oak. Would the 18" really out perform the 14"? Obviously their are many other factors like table size and overall weight of the 18" possibly giving more stability, but in the cut, do you think there would be a dramatic difference? Again, assuming similar guides and fences...

Jeff Willard
11-10-2009, 2:46 PM
On a serious note. Assuming you have two BS's: a 14" and an 18". The 14" with a riser, and both with 2HP motors. Put a 1" blade (I think I'm allowed to do that on my 14, if not, lets say 3/4" blade) on both of them. Now, try to resaw a 10" thick piece of oak. Would the 18" really out perform the 14"? Obviously their are many other factors like table size and overall weight of the 18" possibly giving more stability, but in the cut, do you think there would be a dramatic difference? Again, assuming similar guides and fences...

No. Everything else being equal, they should perform the same.

Chip Lindley
11-10-2009, 3:07 PM
It's not a question of horsepower, but the machine's ability to properly tension the blade!

It is very hard to properly tension a 3/4" blade on a 14" BS (especially with a riser) Too much flex in the machine! There are exceptions, but 1/2" width is generally the limit for tensioning on a 14". I used a 3/8" 4tpi blade with riser on my Delta 14" for resawing!

Generally speaking, the larger 18" BS would have more stiffness and undoubtedly would perform better at resawing than the smaller, lighter machine.

Peter Quinn
11-10-2009, 7:51 PM
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/1455035173.html

strap that bad boy to your bandsaw and go to work

I love that ad. Phase convertor? The motor draws 188A at 220V 3PH, and he is suggesting you use it as a phase convertor? So if your typical phase conversion is 220V single phase to 220V 3PH, and you need to provide double the amps single phase to cover the full load of the three phase draw, than you would need a 400A dedicated service to take advantage of that motors potential? That really would brown out the neighbor hood. I like it.

Tom Walz
11-11-2009, 11:46 AM
Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Love the way you think.

It will do everything.

Wash and wax it on Saturday.

Drive it to church on Sunday.

Cliff Holmes
11-11-2009, 12:04 PM
tip speed on 24" fan blades will be about 120mph.

A bit over 250, actually.

Cliff