hard maple workbench on the cheap progress

[Igor Petrenko]

After recent maple floor install I got bunch of low grade planks left over with knots and discolorations as well as a big pile of cutoffs which I decided to glue together and make a workbench top. I was also making my own trim so I ended up with some defective boards and shorts that I laminated into thicker stock for workbench frame.

After laminating flooring I planed away tounge and around half of grove part, it ended up being sligtly over 2 inches thick. probably will be 2" after final surface leveling.

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[Igor Petrenko]

Main frame stock, ready for mortizes. Ugliest boards are laminated inside:
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Big rails connected to legs with through mortizes without glue. so I could disassemble if needed. I made it to connect well by hammering in pegs and locking it with big tapered dowels. Leg frame mortizes are glued in. In this image it's upside down, gluing on feet pads:
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[Igor Petrenko]

Final top lamination stage, performed on brand new frame:
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Tool tray glued in to the top and hand planed down align level with main top:
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Planning to rout grove with dovetail bit in top and caps and see how well it's going to hold it without glue. If it's not going to be snag I'll try to bolt it together.

[John Thompson]

Nice work Igor.. I once made a top from shorts I laminated together and I believe none was longer than 14". Everyone and I mean everyone told me it would not be stable. I had use of a finger jointer at a friend commercial shop and finger jointed the ends of the shorts. The top now resides at a friends home shop and has only had to be flattened twice in eight years so... so much for you shouldn't.

As far as sag.. I will throw out a suggestion. I have built around 24 benches over a 38 year period. Several years ago I had an idea that will help eliminate sag in the middle. Why not laminate a piece about 3" X 3" or so to run the lenght between the two top side to side strechers on the legs at each end. You tie the long beam in at each end on the stretcher with an open topped bridle joint.

I have used this method on the last 5 tops and it basically creates a support under the top from end to end in the center of the top. If you have say a 30" top.. you have 15" on each side of the long beam as the long beam cuts the un-supportd weight of the top in half. I call this long beam my "whale-back" support as I got the idea from the body of a whaling boat.

If this isn't clear... let me know and I will shoot a few pictures of what I speak of...

Nice bench.. I personally think it won't rack without the glue and if you add the "whale-back" and pin it from under the end stretchers... I know it won't rack as the WB also adds diagonal support.

Good luck and have fun...

[Danny Hamsley]

Very enterprising to take the scraps and make a very nice work bench. I like Sarge's suggestion about the center whale-back support, too.

[David Gendron]

this is great, I mean people could go to a flooring shop and ask for reject wood to built a realy cheep but tough bench! A great idea... and it's "GREEN"... nothing is wasted, I like it!

[daniel lane]

Igor - beautiful work! I've been looking to build a workbench and you're definitely inspiring me. I look forward to seeing the finished project!

Sarge, as I mentioned, I'm getting ready to build a workbench and your suggestion sounds like something about which I'd like more information. Can you post here or PM me? Thanks!


daniel

[phil harold]

If this isn't clear... let me know and I will shoot a few pictures of what I speak of...


I would like to see pictures

thanks

[John Keeton]

Igor, great use of materials! Bet you bought glue by the gallon, though! Sarge has a great idea on the WB, and I would strongly suggest that.

For those looking for a source, I would suggest perhaps flooring installers as many of them do "turn key" jobs and may have more scrap than would suppliers. Also, "cabin grade" is the lowest grade of flooring (at least around here) and it can be had pretty inexpensively. Lots of knots, but it would be easy enough to cut up the pieces to eliminate knots.

Great plan and good execution. Look forward to the final pics.

[Jeff Monson]

Great progress, very resourceful and it should make a rock steady bench.

What are your plans for vises?

[John Thompson]

Igor - beautiful work! I've been looking to build a workbench and you're definitely inspiring me. I look forward to seeing the finished project!

Sarge, as I mentioned, I'm getting ready to build a workbench and your suggestion sounds like something about which I'd like more information. Can you post here or PM me? Thanks!


daniel

Sorry to not get a picture yesterday, Daniel. I visit the Creek mainly each morning before heading to my shop for the remainder of the day. This retirement thing is difficult but... someone has to do it and I'm just that someone! :)

I took several pictures.. two of the "whale-back" sitting on the floor. One of the outer end to show where the bridle extends through. That exposure of the bridle joint on the end of the WB is center on the end stretcher just above my tenoning jig which I built a shelf for on that end. I took one of the WB facing each end direction.

I didn't have any of my work-bench in my photo file so I just took a couple more to have them if needed. The WB on mine is 4" wide and 3 1/2" tall. You can build one to suit the weight of top you have. My top simply is held down by gravity as it has a hole drilled under on the four corners that fit down over a 1" dowel with the head sanded over to form a bullet head shape.

The base is laminated Doug fir and that particular one is 10 years old. I added a new SYP top about two years ago to replace one I had basically chopped to pieces chopping DT waste. The base is all through tenons. Once that "whale-back" is added... you have a self supported box. Until you add a top on most benches you simply have a U shape until the top completes the box for stability. Using the method I use... I gaurantee any I build will not rack before you add the top or glue on the tenons for that matter.

You probably could see the WB better if I had lifted the top off but... that takes two people to do properly so.. what you see is what you get and hopefully will give you the general idea of how I approach work-bench builds.

BTW.. the tray underneath is a latter add-on to have a place to put a few tools I am working with at the moment and also a place to throw some scrap cut offs I might use on a project. I clean it out about once every two months as I finish a project. It has nothing to do with the "whale-back" other than the WB is the trays attachment and anchor component.

Regards...

[daniel lane]

Sorry to not get a picture yesterday, Daniel. I visit the Creek mainly each morning before heading to my shop for the remainder of the day. This retirement thing is difficult but... someone has to do it and I'm just that someone! :)

I'm jealous and happy for you, Sarge. :)

Thanks for the photos, it makes MUCH more sense to me know. I really like the idea, too, because I feel I could make the base and set a solid core door or something on top of it as a temporary surface while I work on a laminated top. Shop space is at a premium at the moment, but I'd really like to build a workbench to replace the current....thing..."bench"..whatever.



Thanks again,

daniel

[John Thompson]

I'm jealous and happy for you, Sarge. :)

Thanks for the photos, it makes MUCH more sense to me know. I really like the idea, too, because I feel I could make the base and set a solid core door or something on top of it as a temporary surface while I work on a laminated top. Shop space is at a premium at the moment, but I'd really like to build a workbench to replace the current....thing..."bench"..whatever.



Thanks again,

daniel

You're welcome, Daniel. The door you mentioned will work fine for your current needs IMO. I have two assembly talbes.. the one you see behind the WB.. a much larger one in the back shop for glue-ups but.. if I need one extremely long, I have a door standing vertical on one rear shop wall waiting to be laid on top just for that purpose. No matter what the obstacle.. a little thinking will usually get you around it to get things done.

Good luck...

[Igor Petrenko]

As far as sag.. I will throw out a suggestion. I have built around 24 benches over a 38 year period. Several years ago I had an idea that will help eliminate sag in the middle. Why not laminate a piece about 3" X 3" or so to run the lenght between the two top side to side strechers on the legs at each end. You tie the long beam in at each end on the stretcher with an open topped bridle joint.

I was thinking about adding removable case with drawers with devider wall right inthe middle so I could add some supporting thingy in the middle of workbench.



What are your plans for vises?
Cheap workbench asks for cheap vise so I got largest that HF has, it was on sale and I had 20% off coupon.

[John Thompson]

[QUOTE=Igor Nowan;1253788]I was thinking about adding removable case with drawers with devider wall right inthe middle so I could add some supporting thingy in the middle of workbench.

That would work as any type of center support is better than no center support IMO.

Good luck....

[daniel lane]

The door you mentioned will work fine for your current needs IMO. ..... I have a door standing vertical on one rear shop wall waiting to be laid on top just for that purpose.

You just reminded me that I have a solid core door in the garage on the other side from the workshop. It's prehung, but I can remove the hinges/etc. to use it for a workbench top. That thing has been there so long, I can't believe I forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder! :)

(The door was moved when we came out here from STL. I bought it to put in the basement workshop and couldn't return it because it had been a returned special order that I bought on clearance. Rather than throw it away, I put it on the moving van...now I know why!)



daniel

[Igor Petrenko]

Long due update:
Caps didnt hold well just with dovetail so I got them bolted in.
Finished box of drawers for inside, all plywood with maple drawer fronts and 1/4 edge trim
For drawers got economy kv slides. Their movement has heavy oily feel unlike expensive slides but that makes them perfect for under workbench - easy to open and close but no movement when I pound something on workbench.

[Bruce Page]

It turned out nice Igor. You're going to love all of that storage underneath!

[David Swinford]

That bench looks great. I have some old Maple flooring that was removed from a school gym where my wife teaches. I will have to remove staples that were left in the wood which will take a long time and also strip the very thick paint and finish but I may use the boards to make a workbench top.

[Jerry Olexa]

Very nice work. I like your laminate approach...

[jerry nazard]

Igor,

A first class bench. Enjoy!

-Jerry

[Bret Duffin]

Not as nice as yours but may be cheaper. I made it from old glu-lam beam ends milled down and I had the vise laying around. I built it as a quickie prototype so I could figure out what I really want and actually buy some real wood. This project took 12 hours start to photo.