SawStop new or used

[Rich Sprouse]

I have decided to finally purchase a SS cabinet saw. My current deli ma is should I buy a local used one (one year old 52" industrial model with lots of extra) for the same price ($3k) as the new professional 36"
It would be nice to have the 52" but I really only need the 36"
Extras include:
Sawstop 52" fence extension
Sawstop 52" fence extension sidetable
HTC Roller outfeed table
HTC Mobile Base
Osbourne adjustable Miter Guage
8" Diablo Dado set
Dado brake cartridge for Sawstop
2- Forrest WWII blades (Thin Kerf and Thick Kerf)

My biggest concern is the lack of warranty on the used one ( SS does not transfer warranty)

Has anyone had any major warranty issues on their saws, any particular problems I should look for?

Thanks
Richard

[Matt Benton]

If you don't consider the warranty, the used saw is no question the better deal (assuming very good condition).

Not sure how the warranty affects things...

[Rick Moyer]

I would add up what the extras are worth, weigh that against what you MIGHT (unlikely) need covered under a warranty, and decide what risk assessment you are comfortable with. Do you already have any of the extras and/or will you be likely to be purchasing them in the future? In other words, what is the real value of the extras to you.

[Cliff Holmes]

I find it rather disturbing that they won't transfer the warranty.

[Kyle Iwamoto]

The ICS is a very solid unit. I don't think you'll have warranty issues. Is it 3 or 5 hp? The PCS is limited to 3 hp I believe. With the extras, I would get the ICS. Is the HTC the SS mobile base? The SS mobile base is awesome. Hydraulic jack raises and lowers the saw, and the saw sits back on the ground, not 2 wheels and the legs, like many other bases. That alone is 380 bucks retail, not to mention 299 in saw blades. If it runs, the saw is fine. I got mine used. I'm happy.

[Philip Rodriquez]

I have an ICS. It is truely a lot more saw (almost 700 lbs) than the PCS. To me, a no brainer.

[Dan Lee]

I find it rather disturbing that they won't transfer the warranty.

Never really thought about it are major power tool warranties generally transferable?

OP Don't know about the PCS version. I've had my SS for almost 3 years and it is great. $3k seems like a pretty good deal if in good shape

[Dave Bureau]

the used saw will still be worth 3k a month after you buy it. The new saw will be worth 2k a month after you but it. so i would say the used saw is a better deal.

[Mike Heidrick]

Has the used saw been called in for warranty or registered? If not, how do they know you did not buy it? I bet they cover any issue you have.

A lot more saw for the same money.

[Michael Schwartz]

3k is a bargain, considering your buying a fully loaded industrial machine that is designed to survive day to day abuse for quite some time. I would not be to concerned with warrantee, the only real thing I could foresee replacing would be the switch in the case it has seen allot of abuse. The paddle switches on the saw-stops are very sensitive and therefore a bit more delicate than your typical magnetic switch people are used to beating on with the end of a board.

Spend some time and look over the saw to make sure it hasn't been water damaged, dropped by a forklift, or abused in some way. If everything is in good shape I would buy it before somebody else does.

[Paul Ryan]

Rich,

I own the PCS saw and am very happy with it. However I think the used ICS is the better deal. As others have said, the ICS saw will still be worth 3k a month from now, the PCS not so. And the extras that come with the ICS saw make it even a better deal. I also think as Mike aluded to if you buy the ICS saw how will sawstop know you are the new owner. You can use the old owners name but a new address for the deliveries of parts. And remember the the PCS saw only comes with a 1 year warranty anyhow. So you are only loosing 1 year of warranty. I say hurry and buy the ICS saw.

[Josh Reet]

Well, if there are blood stains all over the used one, I'd say don't buy it.

[Mac Cambra]

I would go for the used one.

I bought might new, 5HP, long table ext., a dado cartridge and a zero clearance insert. Tack on tax and delivery if I remember correctly the bill came to around $4.5k.

The extra money is because the industrial saw is built better. If it is in good shape I wouldn't even think twice, I love mine.

[Rich Sprouse]

Thanks for all the info, this really helps me make a decision. I'll keep you posted

Thanks
Richard:)

[Kent A Bathurst]

General question: set aside the safety features of the SS. How does it compare to other saws?

[johnny means]

General question: set aside the safety features of the SS. How does it compare to other saws?

I went from a PM to the ICS and IMO the Sawstop is the new "gold" standard. The blade brake IMO puts it in a whole new league.

[Kevin Groenke]

Another for the ICS, if it's been running for a few years without issue or abuse, I wouldn't expect any warranty issues. I would be very surprised if SawStop didn't honor the warranty regardless of transfer of ownership.

The difference between the ICS and the PCS is like the difference between a civilian HummerH2 and a military Humvee.

[Rich Sprouse]

Well it looks like the deal for the ICS is going through. Plan to pick it up the beginning of next week.

Again thanks for all your help

Richard

[JohnT Fitzgerald]

Well it looks like the deal for the ICS is going through. Plan to pick it up the beginning of next week.

Again thanks for all your help

Richard

Congrats!

hope to see pics of it (and all the other loot) set up in *your* shop!! :D

[Mike Heidrick]

You will love it. Another four hours on mine tonight.

[Dan Lee]

I went from a PM to the ICS and IMO the Sawstop is the new "gold" standard. The blade brake IMO puts it in a whole new league.

Ditto PM66 to a SS 3 years ago