15 gauge or 16 gauge?

[aurelio alarcon]

I already own an 18 gauge brad nailer and stapler. I intend to be building a lot of cabinets in the near future. Should I invest in a 15 or 16 gauge nailer. I intend to buy both eventually, but what would be more effective right now in the short run to get me started?

[Dick Parr]

Aurelio,

You don't say what you are going to use it for? I have the Porter Cable 15ga and love it. There have been a couple of times I wished I had a heavier gage like a 16 but for the most part for what I do, it takes care of. I don't do any crown molding, only cabinets and other things so I don't need the angled body of a 16ga. For overall use I would vote for the 15ga unless you are going to do a lot of remodeling soon.

Good luck

[Kelly C. Hanna]

The difference is minimal. I have had both...currently I have a 16ga PC 2.5" nailer. No need for the angled one unless you just like them better. Mine shoots crown perfectly (I just turn the gun sideways...:D).

PS....the smaller the number the larger the guage is...15 is bigger than 16...

[Jim Becker]

There is a real difference between the 16 guage and 15 gauge nailers...the fasteners, themselves. The 16 guage guns are still brad nailers and shoot flat, stamped fasteners. The 15 guage angle gun shoots real nails--they are round and have most of a round head. The latter gun will provide a lot more holding power and the angle design also makes it easy to get into tight places. Frankly, I use the 15 guage angle nailer a lot in furniture and cabinetry work and prefer it over the brad gun when the nails are not tool large for the job. My combination of guns includes a 23 guage pinner, and 18 guage brad gun, a 15 guage angle nailer and a 1/4" narror crown stapler. I have never wished for a 16 guage brad gun. That said, for anyone only able to get a single gun, a 16 gauge unit is a great compromise between the smaller 18 guage tool and a 15 guage nailer. IMHO, of course.

[Tim Sproul]

I intend to be building a lot of cabinets in the near future. Should I invest in a 15 or 16 gauge nailer.
Neither. What do you need brads or nails for when building cabinetry? The only time *I* might want nails is if you don't want to clamp a face frame on or simply cannot due to size or location/installation. 18 ga is all you want for that. For the casework...you don't need nails...though if you feel the plywood/plywood joint needs metal fastener reinforcement, screws are probably the better choice than nails. I know drawers are oft stapled together....but that is in a production shop turning out mediocre quality cabinetry. I've not a plethora of experience and I'm always willing to learn...so I'm seriously asking what you need nails for when building cabinetry?

For trim carpentry, my 18 and 15 ga guns get used a lot more than my 16 ga gun.

[David Tang]

Aurelio,

You don't say what you are going to use it for? I have the Porter Cable 15ga and love it. There have been a couple of times I wished I had a heavier gage like a 16 but for the most part for what I do, it takes care of. I don't do any crown molding, only cabinets and other things so I don't need the angled body of a 16ga. For overall use I would vote for the 15ga unless you are going to do a lot of remodeling soon.

Good luck
I thought 15 gauge was heavier than 16.

[Pete Harbin]

When I bought my 15g nailer my Dad gave me very similar advice that Jim just gave. Since I already had an 18g brad nailer, the 16g would not offer much difference in fastener type. Heavier brads, yes, but still brads. I went with the Craftsman 15g angled finish nailer.

Pete

[Tim Morton]

!5 is heavier than 16.

[aurelio alarcon]

Neither. What do you need brads or nails for when building cabinetry? The only time *I* might want nails is if you don't want to clamp a face frame on or simply cannot due to size or location/installation. 18 ga is all you want for that. For the casework...you don't need nails...though if you feel the plywood/plywood joint needs metal fastener reinforcement, screws are probably the better choice than nails. I know drawers are oft stapled together....but that is in a production shop turning out mediocre quality cabinetry. I've not a plethora of experience and I'm always willing to learn...so I'm seriously asking what you need nails for when building cabinetry?

For trim carpentry, my 18 and 15 ga guns get used a lot more than my 16 ga gun.Location is the reason that I will be purchasing one. I will be doing some work on site and cannot leave it clamped up like I do when I make furniture here at home. I will be doing a lot of cabinets. It is just not feasable to have that many clamps. Based on this thread, I will probably get a 15 gauge nailer.

[aurelio alarcon]

When I bought my 15g nailer my Dad gave me very similar advice that Jim just gave. Since I already had an 18g brad nailer, the 16g would not offer much difference in fastener type. Heavier brads, yes, but still brads. I went with the Craftsman 15g angled finish nailer.

Pete I will probably get the new magnesium Craftsman 15 gauge angled finish nailer myself. Thanks. Jim's advice does make a lot of sense. And since I already have an 18 gauge brad nailer and 18 gauge stapler, I'll go with the 15 gauge nailer.

[Tim Sproul]

I have the SB 15 gauge. It has done everything I've asked without a single hiccup. I also like the oilless feature on their 15 ga gun....though that can be problematic if you run an oiled gun with an in-line oiler. Oil in an oilless gun will quickly ruin the gun.

[Pete Harbin]

Aurelio,

That's the one I bought. I'll be retrimming our entire house with new baseboards and door trim once I finish laying tile. I haven't used my new 15g yet (Just picked it up about a week ago...and...I'm still laying tile) but I have used my Dad's. It's a nice nailer, and is very light.

Pete

[Steve Clardy]

I have all the gauges. Most used is the 18ga. in and out of the shop. Also use the 16ga. some.
Less used is the 15ga. This gun is used mostly when trimming out a house with pine molding and the painters are right behind me. It does a lot better job of holding as like Jim says, it is more of a real nail with a head on it. I do not use it in the shop on cabinets, as my boxes are screwed together.

Steve

[Charles McKinley]

Hi Aerelio,

For onsite work consider the Senco AF 41 (15 gauge)or the Paslode gun (16 gauge) that uses the gas cartridges. I really like my senco. These were the top two tailless guns in the "Fine Homebuilding" test. not having to drag out the compressor sure is nice, especiall for small jobs. The Paslode was rated tops for faster fire rate and the Senco could not countersink the 2 1/2 inch nial into solid oak. I have had no problems with the Senco and have not needed to counter sink the 2.5" nail into solid oak. It sticks out maybe 1/8 inch (had to at least try it) and I don't use the finish nailer like a roofing nailer so the rapid fire is a non issue as well. The senco cartridges have a 6 month shelf life or so and you still need to maintain a battery. If it will be an every day tool I would get the Paslode however.

My 2 cents

[aurelio alarcon]

Aurelio,

That's the one I bought. I'll be retrimming our entire house with new baseboards and door trim once I finish laying tile. I haven't used my new 15g yet (Just picked it up about a week ago...and...I'm still laying tile) but I have used my Dad's. It's a nice nailer, and is very light.

Pete
Are you referring to the Craftsman light weight magnesium 15 gauge nailer?

[Walt Pater]

Aurelio, I routinely use my 15 ga. PC DA nailer, and I really want to get the Bostich 16 ga. nailer. A 15 ga nailer leaves quite a hole, even for a trimmer, and if you are using yours for cabinetry work, a 16 ga nailer might be a better bet. I originally bought the PC when I was doing production work, nailing trim into metal studs, and a 15 ga DA nailer was the only one which would penetrate the metal studs consistently. Now that those days are over, I wish that I had a 16 ga. to nail up trim. It leaves a smaller hole, and still has plenty of holding power. FWIW
Walt

[aurelio alarcon]

Walt, I'll take that into consideration.

[Pete Harbin]

Aurelio,

Yes, I purchased the magnesium 15g Craftsman. They had them on sale a couple of weeks ago, and I had a 10% off coupon from the internet for signing up for the Craftsman Club e-mail alerts. Just visit www.craftsman.com and sign up for the alerts and you can print your 10% off coupon right then.

Mini-mini gloat, but I also picked up a set of the Screw Out bits and an auto switch for my vacume/sander set-up while I had the 10% off in my hand.

Pete

[Pete Harbin]

Since I included the Craftsman link, I guess I should state that I do not work for Sears or any of the companies that produce the Craftsman line of tools.

On mini-mini gloats do I have to include a pic of the Screw Out bits? 2 minute penalty, or can we just get a face-off outside the zone?

USA vs Russia tomorrow in World Cup Hockey! Go USA!

[aurelio alarcon]

Since I included the Craftsman link, I guess I should state that I do not work for Sears or any of the companies that produce the Craftsman line of tools

On mini-mini gloats do I have to include a pic of the Screw Out bits? 2 minute penalty, or can we just get a face-off outside the zone?

USA vs Russia tomorrow in World Cup Hockey! Go USA! I have a set of screw outs that removes screws with damaged or painted over heads. I got them at half price. I've used it to remove some varnished over screws on some cabinets, and they worked excellent! You may have purchased the other ones that they offer. I am hopeful that Craftsman puts the nailer on sale the next time they offer club members the 10 percent discount. I can't wait too long though and will have to purchase it soon. I went in to the store and "handled" it to see how it felt in the hand. I liked the feel of it very much. That will definetly be my next big purchase. Thanks for the input.

[Pete Harbin]

Those are the same ones.

Hey ref, credit Aurelio with the assit on that mini-gloat!