Want to see my new shaper? Big One from Bulgaria!

[Mike Heidrick]

I have a new Laguna T1002S sliding table tilting shaper. 5HP Baldor Industrial Reliance motor 3 ph driven by a GE AF300 mini VFD that gives it variable speed, braking, and soft start and stops. Shaper sliding table can hold 53" material and completely cross shape a piece 48" with the fence at the front or rear.

Shown is my tenoning right angle fence. Extends to 52". I will have a 2nd fence that does not use a breadboard (steel table) next week - both can be installed at the same time. Also shown is the micro adjust fence (outfeed micro and entire fence movement on infeed side) with safety bars that can slide across the top of the cutter. I also have a tenoning hood for the big cutters that has its own DC port as well.

I have the right angle table (slides anywhere on the sliding table) and outfeed table installed and will have the infeed table Monday or Tuesday (shipping with other fence).

Also shown is my Garniga carbide raised panel cutter. I also have a Garniga serated rebate/chamfer/round over head that is not shown. I will have the rail/stile heads soon. Also want a nice Groover.

Leaving it on the pallet as it raises the shaper to a comfortable height. It also clears my sawstop so I can shape LONG pieces and just go over the top of the saw. Also allows me to move it around with a pallet jack when needed (cheaper than a HTC custom base).

It has dust collection above on the fence and below the machine using a shroud around the whole trunnion/spindle assembly. Also has above mounted controls Emergancy stop, start, stop, and fwd/rev direction.

I mounted my 3-wheel commatic feeder - 1hp Delta branded.

Spindle tilts back to 45 degrees. Spindles are fairly quick to change (less than one minute). I have one 1 1/4" spindle and one 3/4" spindle. I hope to add more 1 1/4" spindles as money permits.

Here is what she looks like right now. What do you think??

I have been setting up since uncrating it Tuesday.

They are on sale so if you want one call Tim at Laguna.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e169/BloomingtonMike/t1002s2.jpg

[Larry Edgerton]

Congrats!

I have no opinion, but I would be interested in hearing yours as you get some time in on it.

[Michael Schwartz]

Hopefully some day I can own a piece of equipment like that, makes my router table look like dremmle.

[Bartee Lamar]

What in the world are you going to build ?

That is an amazing piece of gear !!

[Mike Heidrick]

Got some trim to run and some doors to make.

[Chip Lindley]

Quite a machine Mike! The tilting spindle and sliding table make it a one-shaper-shop that can do most operation!

I admit I get a twinge of jealousy, seeing big shiny new machines in home shops. I am saving my nickles and dimes for a SHOP BUILDING.

As for machinery, I always take the Low Road, and buy used! I have very little investment in machinery, compared to many. Your ONE shaper and power feeder probably cost more than my FIVE old shapers and Four old power feeders, which can stay set up for different cabinet-making operations, until a job is completed.

I just can't Play with the Big Boys! Used machinery is the name of the game for Me personally. But Contrats and Best of Luck on your door-making!

[Mike Heidrick]

It was actually used - demoed anyways - it was featured in Laguna's Garniga tooling online videos. It was then put on ebay by Laguna with no buyers. I then worked a deal out on it with Tim Lory.

The feeder I already owned - it came from tools plus which is another outstanding online source for tools - man I love that $6.50 shipping on big weight items.

[Peter Quinn]

It was actually used - demoed anyways - it was featured in Laguna's Garniga tooling online videos. It was then put on ebay by Laguna with no buyers. I then worked a deal out on it with Tim Lory.

The feeder I already owned - it came from tools plus which is another outstanding online source for tools - man I love that $6.50 shipping on big weight items.


Nice machine Mike. Have you fired it up? I am curious to see your reviews of its performance. I wish I could convince my boss to get a sliding shaper at work. We have a couple of old SAC's that work great as traditionals go, but by the end of coping a large door job using a miter gauge my wrists are screaming for a slider. Something about holding 9" kick rails 28" long to the table with your hands that leaves a bit to be desired. I will say the spindles on those italian machines are quite a thing. It looks like the axel from an old sherman tank was repurposed for wood working. I've run 4" molding knives on it; when the wood hits the cutter there is NO change in motor noise signature, no chatter, no spindle deflection. It would be nice to have a bit of finesse in terms of table and fences to match that brutal power. I am wondering with the Laguna, if the power train matches the finesse of the fence and sliding table?

So Bulgaria is the nation of origin on that guy? Do you know whose design it is? I was searching the web looking for the original. It is my suspicion that Laguna's designs always originate with some known manufacturer, sort of a licensing type thing. I know they do a lot with Griggio, used to handle Knapp. I know their first platinum mortiser was a Rojek made in China, though they wont admit that, and the next model was a Hammer, though they won't admit that either. Wondered who is behind your shaper.

Enjoy that tool. I can't wait to see pics with saw dust and a review included.

[J.R. Rutter]

Looks great Mike! That was quite a score. Between the shaper and Garniga, you will be spoiled for life. When you have a sec, I would love to see the innards.

[Scot Ferraro]

Congrats, Mike. I will be interested in hearing your reviews when you get it up and running. I was looking at this same machine on eBay a few weeks back -- it was a great price. I also went to the showroom to check it out (since they are not too far from me). It is a massive machine and I could not get over the size -- too big for my shop. The new video on this machine is on Laguna's website now too if anyone wants to see one in action. The fence is great with the Aigner-style fingers to cover the cutter-head. The only thing that I found to be lacking on the machine was no digital counter for the fence or the height adjustment -- maybe not a big deal for many. Other than that it is an impressive unit.

Congrats again,

Scot

[Jesse Espe]

Nice machine, Mike. Given it's size, does it require a Class C license and a yearly physical before you operate it?:o

[Dave Mura]

Congrats! Nice buy :)

[Mike Heidrick]

The shaper is mostly a Nikkman by ZMM Stomana JSC, from Silistra Bulgaria. http://www.stomana.net/defaulteng.aspx.

http://www.stomana.net/productdetailseng.aspx?type=6&id=41

It then gets a GE Industrial/Fuji AF-300 Mini AC Drive - http://www.geindustrial.com/publibrary/pubLibResult.jsp?famId=13&prdTypeId=5540&subTypeId=1714&src=cwc

And also gets a Baldor Industrial Reliance 5hp motor. It is teh largest 5hp Baldor in my shop and the largest I have ever seen in person.

I will get inside pictures.

Peter, I really believe I could strap 4X8 3/4 sheets (multiples) to the table and it would not even blink an eye. Full solid core exterior doors would not be an issue! that being said, cabinet parts and door pieces will not be an issue. Matched with good tooling, a powerhouse lifelong dream machine!! Send your boss to AWFS!!!

I really think with a smaller shop this machine can replace many shapers.

Digital counters are the only features lacking and to get into them on most brands you are way north of the money I spent!!

Looks like they can be ordered and added though.

[Jeff Duncan]

That's a nice looking piece of equipment, but far too new and shiny for me. I like my machines broken in:D
Let us know how she works after you give her a test drive. I'm looking into an upgrade in the not too distant future myself, but will likely go either German or Italian;)
good luck,
JeffD

[John Thompson]

Very nice piece of equipment, Mike. I couldn't personally justify that one unless I was going commercial and that isn't going to happen. Sounds as if you got a pretty good deal on an investment that large.

[Scot Ferraro]

Hi Mike,

I agree on the cost of digital and the price going way up -- I will be interested to see if you are able to modify your machine to include these -- it is a very, very solid machine looking at it in person and I can imagine it is a dream to use. The cost is also lower than some of the other models out there too, which is a bonus. If there were a way to modify the fence and the spindle height, then it would be just about perfect. I am not sure if a Wixey would work on spindle height as the travel is limited...

Scot

[J.R. Rutter]

ProScale is having a sale on an 8" version:

http://www.proscale.com/products/general_purpose/model_18W.htm

[Peter Quinn]

Mike, a little off topic but I was wondering what the electrical requirements were for your shaper with a 5HP 3P motor and a VFD. Are you wiring it 220 1P, and if so what is the breaker amperage requirement? I ask because i am considering running my 5HP 3P minimax with a VFD, I am also considering a phase convertor. Seems like either one needs a 40A 220V line to push a 5HP 3P motor. Wondered what your was calling for.

[Mike Heidrick]

I have it on a 40amp circuit and am using L6-30 Plugs/L6-30R recepticles and 10ga SJO. I have two fo these circuits and right now my DC is on one (also 5hp 3p and a static converter with ideler motor) and then run the tool I am using off the other circuit. Almost all my large machines are 5hp anymore (planer, sawstop, other shaper, Double Drum, both DCs, and my 6hp Compressor). Jointer, is 3hp and so is the slot mortiser.

Interesting though - the VFDs doc does not show it rated for 5hp single phase. Shaper runs perfect though but I have questions on how this is working.

To answer your question though I have not checked the motor to find out. The 40 amp circuits run all my machines just fine.

[Travis Porter]

Sweet!!! Now you need to put a digital guage on it like the big SCMI's and that way when you interchange spindles you can always get it to the exact same height!!!

Ummm..... Big shaper..... I want one of those.....

[Peter Quinn]

I have it on a 40amp circuit and am using L6-30 Plugs/L6-30R recepticles and 10ga SJO. I have two fo these circuits and right now my DC is on one (also 5hp 3p and a static converter with ideler motor) and then run the tool I am using off the other circuit. Almost all my large machines are 5hp anymore (planer, sawstop, other shaper, Double Drum, both DCs, and my 6hp Compressor). Jointer, is 3hp and so is the slot mortiser.

Interesting though - the VFDs doc does not show it rated for 5hp single phase. Shaper runs perfect though but I have questions on how this is working.

To answer your question though I have not checked the motor to find out. The 40 amp circuits run all my machines just fine.

Sounds like what I have been hearing and reading. Spoke with my neighbor (professional electrician) who told me a 5HP 3P on a VFD required a 40A 220V circuit. I think the 3P motor draws around 14A, and the VFD needs double the amps to make the phase conversion and meet the motor demand, which puts you too close to 30A to use 30A circuit under peak load? I'm a little fuzzy on all this. Seems most VFD's with phase conversion capability will run 1P or 3P input? I was excited to hear of a machine being shipped this way as a factory installation.

[John Schreiber]

Congratulations Mike. That looks like a massive machine which will take whatever you throw at it. Perhaps the pallet should be upgraded to quartersawn oak with a fumed finish. That tool deserves more than OSB.

[Barry Nelson]

There are over 115 videos on Lagunas website good viewing for a wet weekend!:D

[Peter Quinn]

There are over 115 videos on Lagunas website good viewing for a wet weekend!:D

Problem is after 7 minutes of watching Torben, I'm ready to jump in front of a bus. And the other guy uses the expression "big heavy cast iron" as if it were a verbal punctuation mark. I do like that big tool porn though, and usually watch with the volume off!:D

[Glen Butler]

I wish I could convince my boss to get a sliding shaper at work. We have a couple of old SAC's that work great as traditionals go, but by the end of coping a large door job using a miter gauge my wrists are screaming for a slider. Something about holding 9" kick rails 28" long to the table with your hands that leaves a bit to be desired.

Just make your own sliding table. I glued a piece of maple to the bottom of a sheet of MDF that fits the 3/4 slot. Then mounted on over center clamp to the top. Just set your piece to the stop and clamp and feed. Very fast, and safer than a miter gauge. Will post a pic tomorrow for you.