Source of 6" S&D pipe?

[doug faist]

Anyone here at the Creek know of a source of 6" S&D pipe in Southern California? I'm finally redoing my D/C system and the only places I've found on line want a fortune for shipping.

Thanks for your help.

Doug

[Stephen Edwards]

I don't know about your area but here almost any well stocked building center carries it. Have you tried the local ones near you?

[John McClanahan]

If you check the big box stores, they may have it in the yard, but just not in the store.

John

[Fred Hargis]

This stuff can be work to find in some areas. I believe a national outlet that may have it is Hughes Supply, they were bought by HD some time back and may have changed their name. Around me, whether the big boxes have is a crap shoot...some do and some don't, even within the same chain (Lowes might be the best bet). Asking for it those stores is usually an exercise in futility...Skippy Stockboy generally doesn't know what S&D is. Also, when I've found one that has it, it's sometimes not in the store with the other S&D, but outside in the racks somewhere. Anyway, it might be best to stick with the ASTM 2729 designation....of course that might only draw a more confused look. But a well stocked plumbing supply should have it...and if you do find it, you might be anble to get the fittings from McMaster Carr with a reasonable shipping charge. Good luck with your search.

[Jim Foster]

But... The research I did on dust collection in a shop indicated using PVC or plastic piping was a no-no.

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/PVC_piping.html

[Ken Whitney]

I got mine here:

http://www.horizononline.com/about_us/locations/

Perhaps one of their stores is near you.

Ken

[george wilson]

We had a big discussion here about using plastic pipe in a dust collection system due to static. Some here said there was no scientific evidence of a fire being caused by plastic pipe. I made mine of spiral steel.

[Joe Ciccio]

I purchased mine from an irrigation supplier. The guy who installed my sprinkler system called ahead for me. I was able to buy at his cost. Can't recall what I paid but it was 30%-40% less than retail.

[Paul Johnstone]

But... The research I did on dust collection in a shop indicated using PVC or plastic piping was a no-no.

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/PVC_piping.html

This comes up from time to time. The defense says that there's never been a single documented case of plastic ductwork causing a fire.

I use S+D on my DC. a little static electricity is generated, when I touch it. I doubt it's a fire hazard. If it does start a fire, it will be when I'm in the shop and have a fire extinguisher. There have been threads about the chargers in battery powered tools causing fires (and documented cases), but I've yet to see an alarm sounded to stop using them.

I know you had good intentions, but plastic piping on a DC is about as safe as you are going to get.

[glenn bradley]

Doug, I'm in SoCal near Riverside. Horizon (http://www.horizononline.com/about_us/locations/showstate.phtml/California/) had the lowest prices I found in the area. Stores in Riverside, Orange and a few in the San Diego area.

[Nick Abbott]

Agricultural irrigation supply yards will have it.

[Chris Padilla]

Doug, I'm in SoCal near Riverside. Horizon (http://www.horizononline.com/about_us/locations/showstate.phtml/California/) had the lowest prices I found in the area. Stores in Riverside, Orange and a few in the San Diego area.

Ditto on Horizon.

[Chris Padilla]

But... The research I did on dust collection in a shop indicated using PVC or plastic piping was a no-no.

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/PVC_piping.html

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=115087

Long thread to read. Conclusion: PVC is fine in a hobbyist shop and you don't need to wrap it in wire and ground it, etc., etc.

[David Hostetler]

I admit to being completely clueless about California. Not exactly my neighborhood you know?

HOWEVER... From my experience in Oregon, Arizona, and now Texas, most Ace Hardware stores either carry the stuff, or would be happy to special order what you need...

[Alan Schaffter]

John Deere Landscapes (http://www.johndeerelandscapes.com/storelocator/BullseyePro/search.asp), a nationwide chain of vendors of landscaping supplies for professional landscapers, carries 6" S&D. They have 43 locations in CA (see link). Get your fittings at Lowes. The fittings for ATSM 3035 (slightly thicker wall) will fit (same id) ASTM 2729 (S&D). Sched 40 fittings will NOT fit.

If you are a non-landscaper they will sell it to you but charge you almost double what they charge a professional landscaper so find a friendly landscaper to buy it for you.

[Chris Damm]

But... The research I did on dust collection in a shop indicated using PVC or plastic piping was a no-no.

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/PVC_piping.html

I've had my PVC system up and running for about 5 years now and have had NO problems with static eletricity!

[Jim Becker]

Irrigation suppliers are often good sources for the thin-wall PVC duct...check the yellow pages.

As to using the material, there is really no safety issue with using it for home-shop dust collection duct work. There may be some "personal discomfort" relative to small static discharges if one touches the pipe after a healthy collection session. That said, I personally prefer metal. Why? More flexibility in sizing. PVC is generally only available in 2" increments (4", 6", etc) while metal is available in 1" increments. For many situations, 5" and 7" duct is desirable/optimal, depending on the DC system itself and certain tools. Not everyone goes along with this notion, however...