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tom holton
05-04-2009, 11:51 AM
I am not getting the draw that I need on my TS, so I thinking this weekend that I need to scrap the duct work i laid and just roll my DC up to the machine and use a short flex hose. I think this will make a big difference. I can also use it on my planer and bandsaw.

Is this a fairly common practice? Its a HF DC and does a pretty decent job. I have a Grizzley filter bag that improved it all the more.

Tom

Prashun Patel
05-04-2009, 11:57 AM
I have a Delta 50-760 that plug and unplug from tools a-la-carte. It works great.

For a tsaw, though, you really need above table collection if yr serious about dc.

Jerome Hanby
05-04-2009, 12:05 PM
I bought a Jet 220V collector out of the paper and two Delta's when Lowes was clearing them out. All are on wheels. My plan is to run the Jet to collect for the planner and table saw, one Delta to roll around for servicing the Shopsmith and misc tools and one Delta to service my wife's lathe. I'm thinking the space and cost to do centralized dust collection is better spent on wiring and lighting. Planning on putting together Phil Thien sperators for the deltas and maybe building a cyclone for the Jet.

Bob Genovesi
05-04-2009, 12:07 PM
This is the Delta unit I have and while it does have wheels I generally sits on the corner hooked up to the entire system.

glenn bradley
05-04-2009, 12:16 PM
I have a Delta on wheels but it sits pretty still. How long are your runs, what are they made of and where are they gated? Before my Delta got dedicated to jointer/planer duty, it served my whole gara . . . er, shop.

I ran a 4' hose to a manifold of sorts made out of hard plastic Wyes and blast gates. Each run to a machine was gated as close to the DC as I could to keep any unused hose from being in play. This worked good enough for a number of years. As my tools got bigger and due to their size, farther away from the DC, my performance went down. I finally fell back and regrouped but for along time, it was OK as long as there wasn't a lot of unused hose hanging off of it and gated at the machine end.

Michael Wildt
05-04-2009, 12:56 PM
Hope you don't mind me querying in this thread ;-)

I'm in the market for a dustcollector and since we're discussing the ones with wheels I figured I'd ask how stable they are when wheeling them around ?

I've seen a delta 50-720 at Lowes, but I found it super flexible. I could easily imagine it tip over when being used, why I'm starting to lean towards those that have the motor on the base it self (hoping that will make it more stable, like the powermatic 1791077CK).

Any recommendations ?

Joel Earl
05-04-2009, 1:13 PM
If you willing to add a few bucks to the overall cost take off the current casters and toss on some real ones like WC has on sale. It will just glide. Why the make the things so crappy on all of the brands to save a few bucks just baffles me. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused005.gif

David Winer
05-04-2009, 1:24 PM
Hope you don't mind me querying in this thread ;-)

I'm in the market for a dustcollector and since we're discussing the ones with wheels I figured I'd ask how stable they are when wheeling them around ?

I've seen a delta 50-720 at Lowes, but I found it super flexible. I could easily imagine it tip over when being used, why I'm starting to lean towards those that have the motor on the base it self (hoping that will make it more stable, like the powermatic 1791077CK).

Any recommendations ?
Michael, I had the same concerns. After pushing samples of the Delta and Steel City dust collectors, I opted for the rigid "looking" Powermatic. The PM seemed to have more robust wheels too, but I wasn't able to locate one before I ordered. The unit is on order, hasn't arrived yet, so I await results.

Michael Wildt
05-04-2009, 1:43 PM
Congrats with your purchase. Please do let me know how it works out when you get it.

David Hostetler
05-06-2009, 11:40 AM
I installed the OE wheels on my HF DC, wheeled it into the corner,and there it sits hooked up to the plumbing... Okay WAITING to be hooked up to the plumbing that is for now sitting there gathering dust. Been working on truck projects. Gotta get back to the wood shop...

John Baranowski
05-06-2009, 2:23 PM
I have the cheap delta, and I never have any problems with it tipping. I usually move it ~6 feet at a time, so ymmv. I do find it nice when I have to lift it over something that is is lightweight.

raul segura
05-06-2009, 8:59 PM
I have a Harbor freight two h.p. collector Ive fixed it on top of a trash can and a Phill Thein separator . Its used as a mobile and also connects to lines running through my two car garage. Four inch sewer lines not optimum but don't think 6 in. would due this actual (one h.p motor) justice. my pluming is on the floor and easily comes apart for stow away if necessary. The closest machines are a Super Shop table saw,and my chop saw with a very large hood which would work well if I had 6in. lines and more power. the furthest units are two band saws with the four inch cut outs to accommodate ducting. They are about thirty feet away and work well.
I can still move my system around but new wheels would be worth the expense, especialy when particles get in the way. Ive spent about 130. bucks on elbows and forty feet of pipe and think it is well worth the time, ( this was necessary because I run the exhaust out side! ) would be better to have a true 2hp or perhaps three.
that's what I think about my choice and the wheels due suck , not in a good way.

Rob Diz
05-07-2009, 10:22 PM
I wonder if your issue has more to do with the duct layout and the duct sizing than the strength of the DC.

I have a delta 50-760 that was hooked up to the clear flex piping over my ceiling to my TS and it did a crappy job. then I replaced the 4 inch flex piping with a 6 inch metal trunk line, 5 inch drops to 4 inch reducers befor whatever limited flex piping I need to use. Boy, was there a HUGE difference.

Others can explain it better, but now I can get all of the shavings off of an 18 inch wide planer taking a 1/8th inch cut up and to the filter. I got tired of emptying the bag, so I made a pre-separator.

My point here is that you may very well have the right DC, just the wrong set up with ducting.

Todd Burch
05-07-2009, 10:30 PM
My Dust collector is on wheels. It looks just like this one: Todd's Dust Collector (http://www.felderusa.com/us-us/products/clean-air-dust-extractors/rl-160.html)

:D

Rod Sheridan
05-08-2009, 8:09 AM
My Dust collector is on wheels. It looks just like this one: Todd's Dust Collector (http://www.felderusa.com/us-us/products/clean-air-dust-extractors/rl-160.html)

:D

Nice..............Are you happy with the performance of the Felder?

Regards, Rod.

Todd Burch
05-08-2009, 8:15 AM
Yes, I am happy with it. I used to have an Oneida Cyclone, and that worked OK for a period of time. Then, I bought a 15" wide belt sander and it could not keep up. The internal cartridge needed cleaning way too often, and as messy as cleaning the cartridge was, I questioned why I even had a dust collector.

I needed more volume, wanted an easier maintenance program and could not handle more height with an 8' ceiling. The Felder fit he bill perfectly. I get 106 gallons of bag space (two 53 gallon bins), and a brush to clean the pleated filter from outside the machine. It's 3 phase & 5.5 HP. I would buy one again.

Todd

Rod Sheridan
05-08-2009, 9:16 AM
Thanks Todd, that's good information I'll file away for future use.........Rod.

Stephen Edwards
05-10-2009, 2:06 PM
I have the HF 2HP unit with the wheels that came with it. The only time that I move it is when I have to empty the bag, which isn't very often, thankfully. When I do move it, it's only a few feet for easier access to the bag.

Everything runs through a shop built separator made from a 50 gallon plastic barrel. I have some fairly long runs of 4" S&D for the main lines with the super flex black hose going to each machine. This unit does everything that I expect of a DC unit for my shop. The ONLY thing that goes into the bag are really fine dust particles. A lot of them and all of the heavier shavings stay in the barrel. One of these days I plan on adding a version of the Phil Thien baffle to the separator to see if that will eliminate even more dust going into the bag. Even without the baffle, the larger, taller barrel seems to serve my needs better than a trash can size separator. I don't know why, maybe it's because if the depth of it. I just know that it works!

The only things lacking are DC for hand held power tools and overhead DC for the table saw. I feel confident that the HF unit will handle that whenever I get around to installing those two missing areas of DC in my shop. The DC for the hand held tools; router, ROS, etc. are on the top of my priority list!

Art Mulder
05-10-2009, 4:36 PM
I am not getting the draw that I need on my TS, so I thinking this weekend that I need to scrap the duct work i laid and just roll my DC up to the machine and use a short flex hose. I think this will make a big difference.

How Long is your run? What type of ducts? What type of TS?

The latest issue of Fine Woodworking had a very interesting article about improving your TS DC performance through sealing the TS cabinet better, and other such tweaks. They report very good results from that. You might want to have a look.

I have a 2HP import DC and I have about 8-10' of 4" PVC duct separating it from my TS. I think my TS draw is on the low side of Okay -- But i have a Contractor-style TS and I KNOW that I could do a lot more to seal up the cabinet to improve the suction.

best,
...art

ps: Todd, that is a monster!

Bill White
05-10-2009, 5:47 PM
I added the 1 micron bags to my HF DC on wheels. Works for me.
Bill