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Joe Aliperti
04-22-2009, 11:15 AM
Anyone hear any news about when this new Midi lathe will be available? I was considering a Jet 1220VS until I heard about this one. The specs seem to be a bit better and the price should be comparable.



Delta 46-460
With an electronic variable-speed range from 250 to 4,000 revolutions-per-minute, the DELTAŽ 46-460 offers the slowest low-end speed in the category for large turning, whereas the fastest high-end speed is ideal for smaller projects.

Offering the capability to rotate forward and reverse, the 46-460 is the only reversible benchtop lathe on the market. The reversing function provides for the super smooth sanding of multi-directional grain by cutting the fibers smooth in each direction verses simply laying the fibers down.

This function eliminates the difficult and sometimes impossible task of reverse mounting work pieces in order to sand and finish. Ideal for turning bowls and hollow vases, the reversing action aims harmful fine dust away from the turner and directly into the dust collector as well.

With a powerful one peak horsepower motor, the variable-speed lathe, model 46-460, will be available for purchase in second quarter 2009 with a suggested retail value of $599.

Rick Huelsbeck
04-22-2009, 12:27 PM
http://www.mikestools.com/Delta-Lathes_1833.aspx

Looks like there is a price difference though

Joe Aliperti
04-22-2009, 12:33 PM
Yeah, I saw that site. The last bullet says Available: April 2009. All of the Delta documents say MSRP is $599, but I guess that could change. I'm definitely not paying $900 for a midi lathe, though.

Terry Rothwell
04-22-2009, 12:52 PM
I talked to Lowes about an hour ago. They can have it in seven days for $596.58. The bed extension is 14 days out and can be had for $119 and some change.

Joe Aliperti
04-22-2009, 1:59 PM
Great, thanks! I'll have to check with my Lowe's.

Terry Rothwell
04-22-2009, 2:53 PM
A few specs about each. Jet= 3/4 HP motor, 12" swing, 48" between centers with bed extension, 270-4200 RPM's. Delta= 1 HP motor, 12 1/2" swing, 42" between centers with bed extension, 250-4000 RPM's. Woodcraft tells me that the Jet is backordered till mid June.

Terry Rothwell
04-22-2009, 7:57 PM
Any thoughts, good or bad, on this lathe. http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-x-20-Heavy-Duty-Bench-Top-Wood-Lathe/G0658

Terry Rothwell
04-23-2009, 7:20 PM
I will be picking up my new Delta 46-460 tomorrow from the Woodcraft store in Lexington. I called them back today about the availability of the Jet 1220VS and there was still no definite answer as to when they could get any more. They said that they did however recieve two of the Deltas today and would put my name on one of them. I will try to post a few pics tomorrow night if I manage to get it set-up.

Mike Meredith
07-13-2009, 3:01 PM
I got my new 46-460 this weekend. It is a terrific lathe! It's smooth and powerful and very well though out. It's stable and easily regulated. There are three belt adjusted speed ranges and the belt change is fast and very easy. It slows down to allow me to hand chase threads. I could do 22 TPI or smaller my old Midi. With this one 10, 12, 14 and 16 TPU are a easily done. Also hollowing (with the Don Derry tool system) up to 12 inches works well. And it has a spindle lock, something my Jet 1642 lacks.
I am very pleased with this lathe and can recommend it without reservation.

Terry Rothwell
07-13-2009, 8:41 PM
Congratulations Mike! It is indeed a very nice lathe.

Rick Flink
07-14-2009, 3:49 AM
I received my new 46-460 a week and half ago, and it sat in the box until this weekend. I finally got to make some sawdust and compared to my pioneer mini, this is not only a cadillac, it's a rolls royce! Talk about power, speed, and slow speed, and the best part is how quiet it is. I need to get the extension though. I can see some spindle work coming now that I have a real lathe!

Rick

Joe Aliperti
07-14-2009, 10:24 AM
I'd also like to add that after a few months of use on this lathe that I am also very satisfied. I couldn't be happier with my choice.

keith zimmerman
07-14-2009, 12:52 PM
I got mine at 7 Corners Hardware in St Paul, MN.

I really like this new lathe. It has everything anyone could want including variable speed, reverse, and indexing. The only issue I have had so far is that the toolrest banjo has a tendency to vibrate loose while hollowing with my Kelton Hollowing rig. That issue is being addressed by replacing the round plate on the bottom with a square plate for more surface area on the under side of the ways. otherwise, I couldn't be happier with it.

Richard Madison
07-14-2009, 12:58 PM
Mike, My Jet 1642 has both a spindle lock and an indexing pin. You say yours does not?

And happy New Lathes to y'all.

Dick Strauss
07-14-2009, 8:29 PM
Keith,
I assume you already tried to tighten the clamping nut.

All,
I'm happy to hear that you folks are enjoying your new lathes. It's good news that we have another good choice in the midrange lathe field.

Jack Gaskins
07-15-2009, 10:45 PM
Anyone hear any news about when this new Midi lathe will be available? I was considering a Jet 1220VS until I heard about this one. The specs seem to be a bit better and the price should be comparable.

Joe, check out my rant below on the 1220VS. I have gone through two 1220vs lahtes and both had bearings over heat in just a matter of running with not load for 2 minutes. I am going to return this last one tomorrow and get my $$ back. The manager has had three 1220s returned since May all with bad motors and now my two lathes with bad bearings. I dont know who is watching their QC at the factory over in china but someone needs to get fired.

Dont know what I am going to do for a lathe?

Brian Novotny
07-16-2009, 5:22 AM
I believe the days of the Jet mini are over. It looks like Delta has made another turnaround with their lathes. Looking at the specs I think there is no comparison, and with these reviews Jet needs to seriously lower prices. The video on Deltas official web site really sucks you in and plants the thought that this is not just a "mini" lathe, but a space saving, portable lathe that has the power and functions of lathes much more expensive.

I think I've nailed it down to the new delta vs or http://www.amazon.com/Shop-Fox-W1758-Lathe-Stand/dp/B0019CGYLM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I really think that I'm going to go with the delta as I've moved long distances 3 times in the last year and am moving soon 500 miles. I've never turned on the delta, but what I've seen and heard this delta is changing once again the image of delta lathes back into the high quality lathes that delta once produced. http://www.deltaportercable.com/lathes/midi_lathe.html

Matt Hutchinson
07-16-2009, 12:47 PM
I work at a Woodcraft store, and we finally got our shipment of new Delta lathes in. I checked it out this morning, and it's a SWEET machine. The specs are awesome. The drive uses a 5/8" wide poly-V belt with a self tensioning mechanism, is comes with a high quality machined faceplate, it has more HP, and the fit and finish is head and shoulders above the Jet 1220.

If I get a third lathe, this would be at the top of my list. I am so glad Delta has finally moved towards better quality!

Hutch

Kyle Iwamoto
07-17-2009, 4:07 AM
Hmmm. Must be a heck of a machine. I'm really pleased with my little Jet 1014, have had NO problems. WAS thinking of upgrading to the 1220.......

Bill Blasic
07-17-2009, 7:49 AM
I have both the Jet 1220 VS and the Delta 46-460 and I'll agree with Matt that the Delta is a sweet machine but have to disagree about the fit and finish. Both machines are comparable fit and finish and are both worthy of consideration. The bearings and motor on my Delta run on the warm side where the bearings and motor on my Jet can and have run for 6 + hours and there is no heat what-so-ever. I did a comparison of the two a month or so ago and I'm keeping both. I paid $475 for the Jet and $620 for the Delta. I will agree that Delta really used their head on this lathe by going to woodturners on how this should be built. As I speak the Jet is now my traveling lathe and the Delta is the midi shop lathe. You would not be wrong choosing either of these lathes at the price I paid.

Brian Novotny
07-17-2009, 9:06 PM
Today, I found a store that is selling the new Delta vs for $499! all he wants is a $200 deposit. I usually turn 7 days a week 4-10 hours a day so it's hard not having a lathe right now. I'm really tempted to pick up the delta so that I have something soon, but I really need more of a massive machine.....so it's ether the delta vs, laguna 18, or nova 1624. I know the nova inside and out and their customer service is unbelieveable, but the manual speed change is really getting old. Does anybody know of any problems had with the laguna 16/43?....because they're selling like hotcakes.

Brian Novotny
07-17-2009, 9:12 PM
Any thoughts, good or bad, on this lathe. http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-x-20-Heavy-Duty-Bench-Top-Wood-Lathe/G0658

Expect the tool rest to snap off at the shaft fairly often, they'll replace it under warranty but that's 5 days without. the only other tool rest on the market that will fit it that I found is the Rikon mini, but that puts you about an inch above center unless you start tweaking out with your grinder. I always thought of steel as a hard substance until I owned a grizzly lathe.....and because of their cheap steel I don't have a lathe at all anymore. I really want a grizzly bandsaw, but I would pass on that lathe unless it's all you can afford.

Bernie Weishapl
07-18-2009, 9:32 AM
Brian I would definitely go for the Delta over the shopfox. Just to high of a low speed IMHO.

Brian Novotny
07-18-2009, 3:33 PM
Brian I would definitely go for the Delta over the shopfox. Just to high of a low speed IMHO.

Yeah, the shopfox is out. Now it's between the delta and a laguna. Even though the laguna has a high low speed.....I'm no engineer, but does lack of vibration and speed have anything to do with each other? Because these are rock solid.
A guy I talked to on the phone today told me a couple of his buddies works for Laguna and their customer service is a complete turnaround from what it used to be.....I guess changing their customer service was their #1 priority and now they are committed to customer service. Now it's all about the money. Are there any other 16'' vs lathes under $1000???? I'm going down to the laguna showroom on monday and checking it out. Hopefully they have scratch and dent models....

Matt Hutchinson
07-18-2009, 7:19 PM
After I went back and read my post I have to say I did say "head and shoulders above" in fit and finish. You're right, I think I said that too strongly. But it is pretty. :) I think I just got a little excited.....or maybe it was the wine.

It's interesting to hear about the bearing warmth. Are they warm or hot?

Be careful if someone is selling it for $499. Keep in mind that a step pulley drive is still considered variable speed, just not electronic variable speed. I like my NOVA 1622-44, and even though I am not thrilled with everything I still would highly recommend it. I generally have not found step pulleys to be a problem, but I also have never had the opportunity to own a machine with EVS.

Hutch

P.S. You have a big advantage with Laguna, as you are an 'in the flesh' customer. I have heard some customer service horror stories about Laguna, as well as quality control issues. Normally I would lean away from them, but since you are local you may not have those problems.