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Steve Goetz
02-21-2009, 12:00 AM
I'm in the market for a 50" biesmeyer fence system for my older delta unisaw. Any suggestions on a reasonable retailer for a new one or would you recommend finding a good used system?
Also, has anyone used the Vega fence system? Does it compare to biesmeyer? Thanks

Scott Wigginton
02-21-2009, 6:38 AM
Here's a review of the different major systems with links to some additional reviews.

Table Saw Fence Buying Guide: Biesemeyer vs Unifence vs Vega vs Incra (http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/08/26/table-saw-fence-buying-guide-biesemeyer-vs-unifence-vs-vega-vs-incra/)

scott spencer
02-21-2009, 7:46 AM
I've owned two Biesemeyers (http://www.epinions.com/review/Delta_BC30_30_Inch_Commercial_Biesemeyer_Table_Saw _Fence/content_412064059012), a Shop Fox Classic, and a Vega Utility (http://www.epinions.com/review/Vega_Saw_Fence_System_36_Fence_Bar_26_to_Right_U26 XXX/content_217486757508)fence. All are nice fences. The Vega has an excellent microadjuster. My preference is for the Biese, which both came with the saws they were on. The fit and finish is super, and it works wonderfully, but it often sells at a hefty premium over the others. It's worth some extra to me, but not a lot. I could live with anyone of them, but if it boiled down to paying nearly full retail with out of pocket dollars, I'd probably lean toward the value of the Vega.

richard poitras
02-21-2009, 8:55 AM
I am also like Scott. I have had the Biesemeyer and the Vega system, (I have a Biesemeyer that came on my cabinet saw that I have currently) I think both are quality fences but I really did like the micro adjuster that came on my Vega fence and also It has a factory push stick jig that runs on top of the fence that worked very well for ripping thin stock close to the blade and fence.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71JNHVJH9ZL._SL500_AA280_.gif (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000022621/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=228013&s=hi)

Jeff Duncan
02-21-2009, 10:36 AM
I've also owned both systems and prefer the Beis for my shop. The Vega fence is better suited to a hobby shop, but since my machines are in daily use I like the beefiness of the Beis.
good luck,
JeffD

Trace Beard
02-21-2009, 10:56 AM
I'm in the market for a 50" biesmeyer fence system for my older delta unisaw. Any suggestions on a reasonable retailer for a new one or would you recommend finding a good used system?
Also, has anyone used the Vega fence system? Does it compare to biesmeyer? Thanks

I'm picking up a new PM 66 on Monday that comes with the 52' Accu-fence and black powermatic extension table. I'm not even going to open the boxes unless I see a reason to. All will be for sale. I'm in Dallas TX, PM if interested.

Trace

glenn bradley
02-21-2009, 12:20 PM
The Biesemeyer is basic and built like a tank. The primary qualifying comments I can make about it is that I installed and aligned it 4 years ago, it has been off and on the rails a thousand times and iy is still exactly as it was when I originally aligned it.

At first I wondered about the lack of doo-dads for adjusting perpendicular alignment of the fence face to the table top. I now understand; once aligned, there is no need for adjustment.

Jason White
02-21-2009, 3:12 PM
What type of fence are you putting on the new saw?

Jason


I'm picking up a new PM 66 on Monday that comes with the 52' Accu-fence and black powermatic extension table. I'm not even going to open the boxes unless I see a reason to. All will be for sale. I'm in Dallas TX, PM if interested.

Trace

Trace Beard
02-21-2009, 4:34 PM
What type of fence are you putting on the new saw?

Jason

I'm going to put my incra ts III fence back on, I just love that fence.:)

george wilson
02-21-2009, 5:01 PM
I think the best fence ever built was the Parallock,but don't think they are made anymore.I had one down in Williamsburg for years. Bought it in the late 80's.It worked like a drafting rule,which is mounted on aircraft cables running underneath the table on pulleys. It wasn't cheap,cost about $400.00 IIRC. This fence would not move AT ALL when you clamped it down,and it locked on both ends.

I think you can still Google the name,but don't think they are made. They were in Portland,Oregon.

Larry Edgerton
02-22-2009, 8:38 AM
I have two Biesmeyers and one Unifence in my commercial shop. The unifence is a pain but good enough for how I use it, and the Biesmeyers have been adjusted the first time and are still right 17 years later. I do clamp a block on the back side when using a powerfeed, but I do not see this as an issue myself.

They exemplify the KISS principle.....

Marlin Williams
02-22-2009, 10:22 AM
I have two Biesmeyers and one Unifence in my commercial shop. The unifence is a pain but good enough for how I use it, and the Biesmeyers have been adjusted the first time and are still right 17 years later. I do clamp a block on the back side when using a powerfeed, but I do not see this as an issue myself.

They exemplify the KISS principle.....


How is the Unifence a pain? I have that for my saw but have not put it to great use yet as its still new.

Eric Barker
02-22-2009, 3:02 PM
I can't comment on any of the fences except the Beisemeyer as it's the only one I've used. I bought one when they first came out (late 70's?) and it's still going strong along with the 70's Unisaw it's mounted on.

Steve Goetz
02-23-2009, 8:39 PM
Thank You all for your input. It sounds like the biesmeyer is the fence of choice but the Vega is a close runner up. I guess I have some deciding to do. Thanks Again

Randal Stevenson
02-24-2009, 1:59 AM
Isn't the Sawstop fence a Bies clone? I don't know your location but check Sawmills classifieds.

Larry Edgerton
02-24-2009, 7:35 AM
How is the Unifence a pain? I have that for my saw but have not put it to great use yet as its still new.

With the fence the tall way I feel it is to tall for good hand positioning, seems to put my hand where it does not want to be.

With the fence in the short position I feel it is too short, and again can not get comfortable with it.

A different, and longer extrusion would do the trick, the fence stays accurate. It is the first fence I bought many years ago, and I have just never been as comfortable with it as I am the Biesmeyers. Could be just me.....

Its not a bad fence, its just not ergonomically one I like.

Scott Wigginton
02-24-2009, 7:40 AM
Isn't the Sawstop fence a Bies clone? I don't know your location but check Sawmills classifieds.

Pretty much any major manufacturer has a Biesey clone (also called T-style). Only real variance is the Unifence by Delta or a cheaper fence on lower end models (including my DeWalt hybrid, which is why I picked up some Powermatic Rails and a Biesey fence).

This means he doens't have to find the exact name to work, mainly just have to locate one locally (not sure where he's from) or find a way to get the price right with shipping (which killed me getting Ron's from Philly).

If near CA those SS rails look great at $125 (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=105398)
If near KY, here's a Jet Xacta Fence II for a $185 (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=105368)
If near PA, Ron might still have his Biesey for $245 (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=1060100#poststop) if Seth or Kenny don't grab it
If near NC, Jeremey was looking to upgrade his SS to an Incra system so those might be avail (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=1046686#poststop)

Best of luck locating one, took me about 6 months to finally get one close enough to me.