Picture Uploading questions

[Jerry Olexa]

I load my pics into DropBox and then resize them for SMC with PIX RESIZER. I then dload them separately as an attachment to my SMC post.
Lately though, many of my photos are loaded into the post non-vertically when it is published and not as they were originally..They are oriented differently (usually 90 degrees off)..
I cannot find a way to edit/rotate these images back to the original orientation (vertical).
In my most recent post yesterday here at SMC, 3 of my 4 images were oriented horizontally and I cannot find a way to rotate/correct back to vertical..
Your help/advice will be appreciated...Thanks

[John K Jordan]

I load my pics into DropBox and then resize them for SMC with PIX RESIZER. I then dload them separately as an attachment to my SMC post.
Lately though, many of my photos are loaded into the post non-vertically when it is published and not as they were originally..They are oriented differently (usually 90 degrees off)..
I cannot find a way to edit/rotate these images back to the original orientation (vertical).
In my most recent post yesterday here at SMC, 3 of my 4 images were oriented horizontally and I cannot find a way to rotate/correct back to vertical..
Your help/advice will be appreciated...Thanks

Jerry,

I tried taking a look at this.

I don't know about PIX RESIZER, is that an online resizing program? I do know about PicResize.com and have tested it in the past.

I downloaded your photos from that message, the three incorrectly rotated and the one that was OK. The EXIF info (metadata) embedded in the JPG images indicated the X and Y dimensions were exactly as it appeared on SMC. That's a good thing.

I loaded one errant image into PicResize and rotated it there and saved it without resizing.
I loaded the same image into Photoshop Elements, rotated and saved.
All upload here as expected:

JERRY_01.jpg As downloaded
jerry_01_PR_r.jpg Rotated with PicResize.com
JERRY_01_PS_r.jpg Rotated with Photoshop Elements

I examined and compared the metadata from each process and it was also as expected - no surprises.

I have never been able to duplicate a bad rotation when I upload photos so something is different here.
I use:
- Dell Precision 7510 and two other laptop computers to view, process, and upload
- Win 10 OS
- camera: Canon 70D (dslr)
- camera: Motorola droidx razr
- camera: several others
- Photoshop Elements to resize, save, edit, etc.
- FireFox browser to upload

Can you describe what you are using in hardware and software?
- the computer or device you use to view and upload the images?
- OS?
- camera?
- any local software used? (for example, do you email photos from a phone to a computer before uploading?)
- any local image software used besides the online PicResize?
- any other steps besides transferring to and from Dropbox?
- browser used to upload

- any other image software you have on your computer/device that could be used to load, edit, and save a photo.


Maybe someone who has the same issues can spot something in common. Fifteen years ago I was fairly fluent in digital image issues but so much has changed I sort of bungle around these days. But I'm willing to try to spot something if you want. (unless someone else already knows cause and fix)

There have been several mentions here of problems when using an iPhone. (Apple has a history of trying to make things foolproof for their users but unfortunately their schemes sometimes fall apart outside of their own sphere of hardware/software.) I don't have an iPhone but my wife does so maybe I can borrow a photo from her if needed and I do have a couple of iPads I could test with if needed, but it might be simplest to test with your own images.

The easiest thing would be if I had two images from you to experiment with: one that you resized that uploads to SMC correctly every time and one that you resized that does not. For both of these I would like a the original files as well, before any resizing or other processing. (so email four images total)

This way I can try running them through Dropbox, PicResize, Photoshop, etc. and compare the internal metadata after each step. Maybe something will jump out at me.

JKJ

[Lee Schierer]

John Jordan covered some of this....Photos have metadata that tells the software what way the picture is supposed to be viewed. Many cameras (phones, tablets etc.) put this data in the photo file when the photo is taken. Most smart phones, tablets, etc. will read that data and always display the photo right side up no matter which way you rotate the device. The SMC software doesn't do that. I use either Adobe Photo Shop or Windows live Photo Gallery (free with windows 7 and newer) to preview photos I wish to upload to SMC. When you create a post you can go back and edit that post including the photos for a period of time after you make the post and fix any errors or even add information. If your photos are oriented incorrectly as viewed here, go tot eh advanced setting and remove them, then add photos that are properly oriented.

Note: I use the same software to fix photos that are oriented wrong here. I simply down load the photo, view it on one of those photo editors and then save the file after orienting it correctly and put it back here.

Windows Live Photo Gallery does some pretty neat things for "Free software". Here are two photos taken on a vacation. I took the first one then traded places with my wife and she took the second one.
IMG_3897.jpgIMG_3898.jpg
Here are the two photos fused together with Windows Live Photo Gallery
IMG_3897 Fuse.jpg

[Jerry Olexa]

Thanks Lee and John....Difficult to identify exactly what is happening.. I take my pics with my relatively new Samsung 8 Android cell and load into DropBox as a camera upload...Then I do a normal response or thread in SMC and load these in as attachments to my post...When published, the rotation ocurrs.

As an interesting BTW, I find now when I click on the opened (enlarged) pics I posted, they will correct and go back to true vertical.
Thanks for your help...I suppose we all have bigger issues to pursue....Thanks

[Lee Schierer]

Take a look at this Thread there is more information on photos and even four photos taken with my Samsung S-4. Why your photos end up sideways