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    DeWalt RAS Gloat

    I just picked this DeWalt RAS up last night for $50. It starts up perfect and shows no signs of corrosion. The guy I bought it from received it from his father who purchased it new in 1955 - I have attached the original bill of sale - pretty neat.

    From the tips I have received regarding questions about this purchase, I plan to re-wire the entire saw and also replace the bearings. I hope new ones are not hard to find. One other thing I would like to find is a new decal for the blade cover (and possibly an original guard that goes on the cover).

    This RAS will be going next to my SCMS in the station I built for it a couple of months ago. With a little reinforcing of the bench and a couple of new pieces of hardware, this old beauty will breath new life.

    Thanks to everyone for the earlier tips.


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    I am not a huge RAS fan, but that is one piece of iron I would love to own. $50????? Wow.
    Man advances just in proportion that he mingles thought with his labor. - Ingersoll

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    I agree with Jon! I'd sure like to have that for $50. You did great!!!

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    Cyrus, there is an online forum dedicated to fixing and using these saws http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start. The guys over there will help walk you through the process. You might also want to look at the Mr Sawdust book http://mrsawdust.com/"]http://mrsawdust.com/. It was written by Wally Kunkel, one of the early adopters of Dewalt RASs in the '40s. He tells you exactly how to adjust and use the saw to maximum advantage. He goes through all kinds of methods for making unique cuts as well.

    You can order the motor and roller bearings from Accurate Bearing http://www.accuratebearing.com/. They work with Dewalt owners all the time and will know what you need.

    You can dowload and print your own replacement decals here http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/Decals.ashx#DeWalt_11. You may need to play with sizing them and getting the color just right before you print them, but they come out pretty well.

    As a final note and nosy reminder, get a dedicated RAS or CSMS blade. RASs already have a tendancy for the blade to self-feed and walk toward you as you cut. The more angle on the blade's teeth, the more tendancy to self-feed. I haven't used one, but some of the enthusiasts think that the Freud LU83 is the best deal.

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    $50?

    Dude, not fair!


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    Very nice. You will love that saw. My old dewalt has pretty much replaced my scms. It does everything better. (except for portability) As David said, a good blade will really make all the difference on your saw. A blade with a negative hook angle will greatly reduce climb cutting. I bought one of these for mine:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Onsrud-MTR-1...item336f7a588d

    They're VERY good blades, and at dirt cheap closeout prices.

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    Cyrus
    Great find, and price is even better. You said that you are going to replace bearings, check out Dewalt Radial Arm Saw delphi website that Dave Burm listed, great info there that will save you a lot of time. New carriage bearing are spendy, but you can overhaul them very easily. Tom

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    Cyrus,
    Nice looking saw. I have a couple of articles on restoring and aligning the Dewalts. PM me if you are interested.
    Cary

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    Think of Beauty. Work safe and enjoy that. David has pointed you spot in the right direction, I'd follow all his suggestions. Wolfe Machinery may also be a resource for repairs should they be neccessary.

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    DING ! DING ! DING !

    As 2011 draws to a close, this may be a nominee for Gloat of the Year !

    I sent you a PM with some other RAS resources ... if you're bored

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    Quote Originally Posted by david brum View Post
    Cyrus, there is an online forum dedicated to fixing and using these saws http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start. The guys over there will help walk you through the process. You might also want to look at the Mr Sawdust book http://mrsawdust.com/"]http://mrsawdust.com/. It was written by Wally Kunkel, one of the early adopters of Dewalt RASs in the '40s. He tells you exactly how to adjust and use the saw to maximum advantage. He goes through all kinds of methods for making unique cuts as well.

    You can order the motor and roller bearings from Accurate Bearing http://www.accuratebearing.com/. They work with Dewalt owners all the time and will know what you need.

    You can dowload and print your own replacement decals here http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/Decals.ashx#DeWalt_11. You may need to play with sizing them and getting the color just right before you print them, but they come out pretty well.

    As a final note and nosy reminder, get a dedicated RAS or CSMS blade. RASs already have a tendancy for the blade to self-feed and walk toward you as you cut. The more angle on the blade's teeth, the more tendancy to self-feed. I haven't used one, but some of the enthusiasts think that the Freud LU83 is the best deal.
    Thanks for these links. I just ordered the book, registered on delphi and copied the decal. Before I buy the bearings, I will check the condition of the ones currently on the saw - not hoping for much though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Rausenberg View Post
    Very nice. You will love that saw. My old dewalt has pretty much replaced my scms. It does everything better. (except for portability) As David said, a good blade will really make all the difference on your saw. A blade with a negative hook angle will greatly reduce climb cutting. I bought one of these for mine:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Onsrud-MTR-1...item336f7a588d

    They're VERY good blades, and at dirt cheap closeout prices.
    Tom,

    Of all of thing I do on the internet, a purchase from ebay is not on the list. Is there a way to buy several of these blades without without bidding?

    Thanks for the link - BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus Brewster 7 View Post
    Tom,

    Of all of thing I do on the internet, a purchase from ebay is not on the list. Is there a way to buy several of these blades without without bidding?

    Thanks for the link - BTW.
    Unfortunately, I don't think so. At least not at those prices. There is not a lot of bidding competition, if that is your concern. I bought three different blades, the RAS blade, a glue line rip blade, and a dado set, and got them all at the opening bid price. All three are superb, by the way.

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    I"d work on the bearings a bit before replacing. The grease gets hard in them, and they seem like they may be bad. A soak in something for a week can loosen them up nicely. Same with the motor working on it, not soaking!). Not sure what you had in mind, but the motors rarely (in my experience) need re-wired. New cords sometimes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Norris View Post
    I"d work on the bearings a bit before replacing. The grease gets hard in them, and they seem like they may be bad. A soak in something for a week can loosen them up nicely. Same with the motor working on it, not soaking!). Not sure what you had in mind, but the motors rarely (in my experience) need re-wired. New cords sometimes...
    I think that's all good advice. Very little harm in trying.

    In the case of my MBF, the insulation on the wires FROM the windings TO the ... whatever it's called (Klaxon something ?) -- basically -- circuit breaker -- AND the motor-to-frame AND frame-to-wall outlet cords were shot.

    Missing/broken/split/electrical taped insulation, primarily. Wasn't worth the risk, for ... I think .... $50 in parts that it cost me (did the labor myself) to swap 'em out.

    New copper windings on these saws, today, are something like .... maybe $700. Pretty sure THAT's not important

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