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    The hits keep on coming
    https://www.cnn.com/travel/bison-inj...est/index.html
    At the very least, we can blame some of the behavior on alcohol in this case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Weber View Post
    The fact they turned themselves in is a positive sign, hopefully the prosecutor and judge will consider this and their sentence will be limited to community service cleaning up the ocean or beaches. I doubt they were sober when they dumped the trash cans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Garson View Post
    The fact they turned themselves in is a positive sign, hopefully the prosecutor and judge will consider this and their sentence will be limited to community service cleaning up the ocean or beaches. I doubt they were sober when they dumped the trash cans.
    You always make me laugh, turned themselves in, seriously?
    There is a video recording of them in the act, it's not as if they can deny it.
    Nothing more than a bunch of spoiled rich kids doing something stupid on someone else's boat.
    IMO, It's just a lack of respect all around, for the environment, other boaters, the law and themselves.
    They're lucky the Coast Guard didn't catch them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Weber View Post
    You always make me laugh, turned themselves in, seriously?
    There is a video recording of them in the act, it's not as if they can deny it.
    Nothing more than a bunch of spoiled rich kids doing something stupid on someone else's boat.
    IMO, It's just a lack of respect all around, for the environment, other boaters, the law and themselves.
    They're lucky the Coast Guard didn't catch them
    My point was putting them in jail for a few months does little to undo the harm they did and would cost the taxpayers a few thousand dollars that could be better used elsewhere. If they are spoiled rich kids a fine will have little impact on them or the environment. Having them spend a couple hundred hours cleaning up beaches would. What would you propose an appropriate punishment would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Garson View Post
    My point was putting them in jail for a few months does little to undo the harm they did and would cost the taxpayers a few thousand dollars that could be better used elsewhere. If they are spoiled rich kids a fine will have little impact on them or the environment. Having them spend a couple hundred hours cleaning up beaches would. What would you propose an appropriate punishment would be?
    I can think of a few...
    Public flogging, stocks, T and F... you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Hann View Post
    I can think of a few...
    Public flogging, stocks, T and F... you get the idea.
    And how that would undo the harm their stupid act did? My thinking is that the consequences of getting caught should not be limited to being punished, it should include a requirement that the perpetrator must undo the damage they did. If they spend the next 52 Saturdays removing garbage from beaches or parks for 8 hours, they will feel punished and they will have undid, at least some of the damage they did. If the right people are assigned to supervise them, maybe they can instill in them, a respect for the environment they obviously don't have now. If all you do is publicly flog them, all you will do is turn them into angry young men, no lesson learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Garson View Post
    And how that would undo the harm their stupid act did? My thinking is that the consequences of getting caught should not be limited to being punished, it should include a requirement that the perpetrator must undo the damage they did. If they spend the next 52 Saturdays removing garbage from beaches or parks for 8 hours, they will feel punished and they will have undid, at least some of the damage they did. If the right people are assigned to supervise them, maybe they can instill in them, a respect for the environment they obviously don't have now. If all you do is publicly flog them, all you will do is turn them into angry young men, no lesson learned.
    Mr. Doug.... please go to https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread....54#post3312454
    But flog them first...they won't soon forget it.
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    I wonder if their parents owned that 3/4 million dollar boat.

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    Idiotic acts by teenagers will never go away. But I agree- there needs to be a harsh punishment. A hefty fine and weeks and weeks of cleaning up the environment somewhere.

    A fine hefty enough that phase two of their punishment is their parents telling them "We're not paying this, you are. Get a job"

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    I think that because the parents are responsible for the care and upbringing of the juveniles maybe they could join them for the next 52 Saturdays cleaning up beaches and maybe even take some classes about the environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom M King View Post
    I wonder if their parents owned that 3/4 million dollar boat.
    If so then it should be confiscated and sold since it was used in the crime. They do that for drug dealer cars don't they?
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    I was worried the last time we had a real estate appraiser for the county come through driving a Porsche SUV with a magnetic sign on the door, but was relieved to find out it was a confiscation from a drug arrest. My first thought was, "This can't be a good sign".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom M King View Post
    I wonder if their parents owned that 3/4 million dollar boat.
    Maybe the boat should be seized and sold at auction.

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