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Thread: Festool Guide Rails - 2 55" with connectors vs 1 116"

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    Counterpoint. Who here believe that a long track can ride around in an 8' bed very long with out getting bent.

    I have both, I use the 75/32 combination when on site.

    Betterly makes a connector that is better if one feels it is a need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy bessette View Post
    Who here seriously believes that 2 connected tracks are as precise and durable as a single long one? Come on!

    Because you ask - I'm very particular and strive to be precise and exact woodworker. I have built many kitchens worth of cabinets from plywood ripped with my connected rails without compromise. I went as long as I did before buying the long rail because I had none of the issues that others report with inaccuracy/lack of straight cuts. Any variance was negligible. I maintain that a very flat work surface is key. I never really fussed with connecting the rails - simply put them together with the provided bars. I store my rails hanging long and if I carry them to a job site they are well protected in a purpose built box. Maybe all that has contributed to my satisfaction with the connected rails over the years. I only finally ordered a long rail because of the inconvenience of needing to plan my long rips in conjunction with shorter cuts. Often enough I forgot something and needed to reconnect the rails. That was a major downside, otherwise I was a happy guide rail connector.

    Obviously - most others have not shared my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy bessette View Post
    Who here seriously believes that 2 connected tracks are as precise and durable as a single long one? Come on!
    No, but precise and durable enough for home shop use? Yes. Some of us have to make the occasional compromise to save money for other things. Good enough is, sometimes, good enough. (And in this case, pretty darn good)

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    Curious - those of you that use Festool and Makita tracks with Festool saws - do you find you need to readjust the saw every time you switch between rail brands? Thinking about that long Makita rail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Cutler View Post
    Josh
    No alignment is necessary at all? They just butt together, and everything is true the entire length?
    I have the Festool TS75 and this was one aspect where I think they "fell down". For the $$$$ the Festool guide rails cost, they should have been machined better on the butt ends. The guide rails, along with the vacuum, are the heart of their system.
    I find it very annoying to have to align the guide rails.
    Correct.

    I was checking for the first while against a straight edge but it's always right on. I think it's the channel/connection piece that pulls them straight vs. just the butt ends being square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger wiegand View Post
    ...precise and durable enough for home shop use? Yes...Good enough is, sometimes, good enough...
    Good enough for you might be completely unacceptable for another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy bessette View Post
    Who here seriously believes that 2 connected tracks are as precise and durable as a single long one? Come on!
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    I don't think that the issue is whether or not two can be as precise as one, but how much fussing about does it take to make two as precise as one, and can the two maintain that same equality over a given duration as the one.
    However, the wood is still the biggest variable in the equation, and unless it's cabinet ply, it's not going to be the same dimensionally tomorrow, as it was today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jared Sankovich View Post
    Says truck freight shipping required.
    Shipping was $6 and delivered in a normal delivery van

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Robinson View Post
    Curious - those of you that use Festool and Makita tracks with Festool saws - do you find you need to readjust the saw every time you switch between rail brands? Thinking about that long Makita rail...
    If you want to be very fussy then you can adjust but I have used them over the two tracks without adjusting and works just fine.

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    If precise is what you want, then use a table saw in a proper shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy bessette View Post
    Good enough for you might be completely unacceptable for another.
    Really? We are talking about a skil saw here.

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    I bought the DeWalt with 59 and 102 inch tracks because I knew I wanted the long track and it was the cheapest with both tracks. I think that is still true. I later bought the short 41 inch track and connector so I could put both short tracks together and avoid needing to transport the long one. I mainly wanted the short one for in the shop, however. I might get another and cut it. I was cross cutting pieces a little over 12 inches wide yesterday and 41 inches wasn't too handy. Anyway, long track pricing is an advantage of the DeWalt.

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    How precise do you need to be in breaking down sheet goods to manageable pieces? I'm not sure how I would even detect a cut that wasn't exactly straight by 1/16" over an 8 ft length, not owning a long straightedge of that quality. Are the factory edges on plywood that good? That level of straight seems fine to me for carpentry tasks like cutting sheathing. Anything going into a piece of furniture in my shop is going to get the final cuts done on the table saw where I have much better control over dimensions, squareness, as well as straightness of the cut.

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    Some people use the track saw as a table saw replacement. I am not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Nagle View Post
    If precise is what you want, then use a table saw in a proper shop.
    Quote Originally Posted by roger wiegand View Post
    How precise do you need to be in breaking down sheet goods to manageable pieces? I
    A track saw can be more precise that most folks' table saws...it's not about breaking down the goods, it's about making the final cut the first time. And for many folks using these systems, they are either on a job site cutting to measured specification, or utilizing the tool to make it easier and more comfortable to do the work. It's just a different way to work. The question about joining two shorter tracks is also a valid concern when you take "final cut" into consideration. If two shorter tracks have even a barely perceptible variation at the join, it really could affect the cut result in a visible way.
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