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    Most Sandable Wood Glue?

    I use Titebond 2 and try to catch all squeeze out, but occasionally miss some.

    So, then I need to sand it down.

    It just seems the Titebond 2 is kinda flexible and rubbery.. NOT super hard and crisp to sand.

    Same bottle to bottle, different stores, so different batches I assume.


    Years ago, I used "Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue", and I remember it was way less rubbery, sanded better.

    Like cleaning dry squeeze out on an edge glued panel.. W the Elmer's I used a paint scraper and the little balls popped right off.

    Again, w the Titebond 2, not the same..just plain more rubbery is best I can explain it.

    Obviously Titebond 2 is very popular, no one else has this problem ?


    Nothing I do needs the glue to be particularly water resistant... Should I try another product?

    Thoughts ? Comments ? Marc
    Last edited by Marc Jeske; 11-04-2017 at 1:38 PM.

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    I was told by a Titebond rep that Titebond Extend is the most "sandable". It's what I use mostly because it can be used down to 40 degrees fahrenheit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Jeske View Post
    I use Titebond 2 and try to catch all squeeze out, but occasionally miss some.

    So, then I need to sand it down.

    It just seems the Titebond 2 is kinda flexible and rubbery.. NOT super hard and crisp to sand.

    Same bottle to bottle, different stores, so different batches I assume.


    Years ago, I used "Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue", and I remember it was way less rubbery, sanded better.

    Like cleaning dry squeeze out on an edge glued panel.. W the Elmer's I used a paint scraper and the little balls popped right off.

    Again, w the Titebond 2, not the same..just plain more rubbery is best I can explain it.

    Obviously Titebond 2 is very popular, no one else has this problem ?


    Nothing I do needs the glue to be particularly water resistant... Should I try another product?

    Thoughts ? Comments ? Marc
    This is one reason why I like to use Titebond Liquid Hide Glue for a lot of applications. It sands great. For filling holes, I just mix up some saw dust or shavings with some Liquid Hide Glue and it works great. Longer open time. Fills sloppy joints better, and isn't as sensitive to perfect clamping pressure. The bond strength is 3591 psi which is almost as strong as Titebond 2 (3750 psi) or Titebond 3 (4000 psi)

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    How long are you letting it dry before sanding? After 24 hours it's as hard as a rock, at least up North here where the humidity is likely lower than where you are. I often let the squeeze out just harden in the little beads that form along the joints. After an hour or so they are rubbery and you can scrap them off with a putty knife. If I forget, they just crack off with a scraper after 24 hours. What's left sands w/o a problem for me.

    But if you want a harder glue, hide glue as mentioned or plastic resin glue both would fill the bill.

    John

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    Your question is a bit off. But in my opinion the most sandable glue is plastic resin glue. Will you go to the trouble to use it? Likely not. PVA has never been a problem in my shop. I scrape it, then I sand it. Leave gobs on and then sand? Your paper will die a quick death.

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    Be sure you're scraping excess of while it's still pliable and that will mostly eliminate any heavy sanding. In some cases, it's also best to use painter's tape to protect areas that are subject to squeeze-out and hard to deal with after the fact. These are things that are good to do, no matter what glue you are using. Others have already answered your specific question with their recommendations and I don't think I can contribute much with that as I only use Titebond III.
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    If you don't need the water resistance then why not go back to the white glue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Fournier View Post
    Your question is a bit off. But in my opinion the most sandable glue is plastic resin glue. Will you go to the trouble to use it? Likely not. PVA has never been a problem in my shop. I scrape it, then I sand it. Leave gobs on and then sand? Your paper will die a quick death.
    My experience agrees that plastic resin glue being the more easily sanded than any of the PVA types.

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    Hot hide glue once it has fully set and dried out. Sands perfectly and takes every finish I've ever used.

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    Jim's suggestion about taping joints before gluing - or finishing first - is a good one. PVAs I wait 'til it's rubbery then use a fairly sharp Harbor Freight chisel to scrape it off. Liquid hide glue is probably better but my understanding is that it's fairly life limited. I've used 3 year old PVA without problems, I doubt liquid hide glue would be usable that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Jeske View Post

    Years ago, I used "Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue", and I remember it was way less rubbery, sanded better.

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    As noted above by Jim, whenever practical I like to tape off joints to prevent squeeze-out from affecting follow-on staining. I used to wipe off the excess with a damp clothe immediately after glue-up, but found that doing so only allowed the diluted glue to sink into the wood, cure & that affected the stain wich was very noticeable. For those areas that don't lend itself to tightly taping around the joints, I found it better to wait an hour or so & then scrape off the squeeze-out with a chisel, then stain.
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    Different strokes for different folks but I've found taping to be a PITA and not necessary if: you use an nylon bristled artist brush to carefully apply glue to joints. With a fine brush you can carefully apply glue to all surfaces and have a minimum if any squeeze out once you get a feel for how much glue is needed. Match the brush size to the joinery size and clean with warm water and soap, I've got brushes that are well over 10 years old. I pour my PVA into yogurt containers, the single serving size and wet the brush out of these.

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    Chris, I don't use the tape very much...only when it's something like an inside corner that would be difficult to deal with any inadvertent squeeze-out..."stuff happens".
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    I'll get some Elmer's again and see if it in fact sands better.

    Thanks to all, Marc

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