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    DELTA 50-181 Dust Collector Mods!

    Dust collection has always been a shortcoming of my CNC router set-up and I recently undertook to make some drastic improvements. I have an older DELTA 50-181 dust collector that sat on a 55 gallon drum. It could move lots of air and had a premium BALDOR 2HP motor but separation of fine dust from MDF or the plastics that I work with was very poor and much ended up in the filter bag, quickly plugging it up . Also as anyone who has one of these is aware, lifting off the blower and lid assembly to empty the drum is a serious chore as it must weigh at least 75lbs if not more. Anyway after a few years of this I finally decided to separate the blower from the drum lid and build a adapter plate that would allow it to attach to the 6" inlet of a Super Dust deputy cyclone. The cyclone alone was a massive improvement but I figured why stop there so I ordered up a HEPA cartridge filter from my local woodworking toy store and set about making the vireos brackets and duct work to tie it all together. With all this done I now have a very effective collector and I just have to run some duct work to the SHOPBOT and then improve my collector foot on the table itself. Gonna be great, I just know it! Initial tests show the separation of even the finest of dust is nearly 100% with virtually nothing ending up in the filter bag. This is such an improvement that it just amazes me. It did cost me $650 Canadian dollars to do this upgrade but since I already had the DELTA it was worth the investment as a readymade 2HP cyclone at the local store was about $1600.


    Gerald
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    I forgot to mention that I also added a wireless remote control system onto the motor for ease of operation! That may be my favorite feature for years to come!

    Gerald

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    Nice modification. I run a Delta 50-850 with my cnc. It has 1 micron bags that work pretty good but I'd like to have a canister/separator setup like yours.
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    Installed some metal ductwork today to get the "Suck" over to the router. Hoping the short length of 4" flexible hosing will cover the complete table without snagging but may have to relocate my ceiling mounted air filter. I still have to rejig the mounting attachment bracket on the router carriage as originally it was set up for a smaller pipe. The beauty of a CNC router is it can make parts you need for your projects and with a few minutes in ASPIRE I designed some 5" duct hangers to hold the pipe along the ceiling! These were cut from some scrap plywood.

    Some basic preliminary tests show that this is sure gonna be a vast dramatic improvement over my earlier set-up.

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    I like your hangers. Mine's a large dog collar and a long spring, LOL!
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    Good Idea Bruce..............I suspect I will need same sort of thing on the flexi hose to keep it up out of the way and not snagging on the Z axis of the SHOPBOT but won't know for sure until I complete the mods to the router.

    My dog would love it though if she get to go on walks without her leash!

    Gerald

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    Bruce,

    I installed a spring support much like yours and also performed a motion test to the 4 corner limits of my SHOPBOT, seems to work good. The spring support was a definite plus. I posted a short video on youtube to show the 4 corner motion test.

    Gerald


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    Looks good Gerald. I thought about looping a chain around the hose like that but I was worried that it would poke a hole in the hose over time.
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    The chain was what I had hand but I will keep an eye on it and if wear becomes evident I will sew a small vinyl sheath over it. The chain is very smooth with welded links so no sharp edges so hopefully is OK as is since I like things simple!

    Gerald
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    You have a CNC AND you like things simple? Does not compute..
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    To my highly evolved and modest mind, CNC is the simple way to make stuff. It can do things I couldn't even dream of doing with my own hands which are much less advanced than my mind ;-)


    Gerald

  12. Hi Gerald. I also have a Delta 50-181 dust collector which I have been thinking of modifying to reduce the fine dust which passes through the cloth collection bag. I had hoped to make mine portable, instead of stationary like yours, but the unit would be pretty top heavy with the heavy 2 hp motor on the top. Also I think I would need a larger dust collection barrel because of the heavy waste from woodturning or planing. The other option would be to buy an entirely new dust collector but that would be pricey and I have a perfectly fine motor and impeller.

    Please tell me if you are happy with your new design, what you might have done differently, and any new recommendations for me. Thanks, Jerry

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    Hi Gerald-
    I am inspired by your alterations and am considering doing the same with my Delta 50-180. Can you tell me the brand of hepa filter you have? Where did you get it? I'm having trouble finding a similar filter... Thanks in advance!

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    Ben, welcome to SMC. Gerald's last visit to the forum was in 2015.

    I was able to find his HEPA filter at https://canadianwoodworker.com/webst...get=CWI-DHF015
    There's probably other sources as well.
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    Thanks so much!

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