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  1. #1
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    I would recommend the LN 60 1/2 R N. Its a Rabbit Block Plane. You can cut shoulders with it like a shoulder plane because the iron extends to the edge of the sole, but it's set up like a block plane and tackles block plane tasks very well. I use this plane all the time (see avatar). I would also be lost without my smoother (4 1/2) and my jointer (8).
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    I second the Rabbet block (although I don't own one). But for someone who is cutting most joints with power tools, that would be very good for tuning joints (e.g. cheeks and shoulders) and for low angle block plane tasks.

    For a second plane, get anything in the #4 - 6 range depending on what you want to do. If you want to clean up long edge joints go larger. Otherwise, I'm sure any premium smoother or jack would be good. A low angle jack (either LN or LV) would be the most versatile.

    If you don't already have a sharpening method skip the 3rd plane and get yourself some stones and a honing guide if you need one.

    If you're set up for sharpening, than your third plane could be a a number of things. Perhaps a dedicated shoulder plane, or an adjustable mouth block plane (the rabbet block mouth is not adjustable) or a router plane, which is very handy for any recess work (hinges, etc...)

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    If you have the budget for 3 LN/LV planes, I would suggest you leverage it a little differently.

    You need a jack plane to initially prepare stock. Buy a Steve Knight razee jack. It will do the job brilliantly and save you bucks for other planes. Initial jack plane work is usually taking 4 ~ 6 thou shavings so the plane doing the work doesn't have to have a perfect sole etc. It works better with a extremely flat sole but it's not a requirement to do good work. The Knight jack has a ipe sole and will make the initial stock prep a lot more enjoyable than a heavier metal plane.

    Next I'd buy a #7 or #8 LN. LV is also good but choice is either a #6 or a bevel up jointer. The LN #7 is $150 more than the LV bevel up jointer but IMO is a perfect jointer. Either will do the job, the LN #7 is best IMO.

    I'd also recommend a LN 60 1/2 low angle block plane. This is a perfect plane for end grain, edge softening, and all kinds of stock adjustments that make it a handy item for sure.

    Last I recommend either the LN 4 1/2, the LN Bronze #4, or the LV 4 1/2 smoother's. The LV is the cheapest of the three and does an excellent job with a lower center of gravity which is a very nice advantage in tougher hardwoods. Very good adjuster too. If you are feeling a bit adventuresome, a Japanese kanna in the $250 price range will give you excellent results and a superior blade IMO. Has a bit of a learning curve but really can handle any knarly wood you throw it on. The N T Gordon Ebony smoother is also a very good choice with a brass supported mouth and will take extremely fine shavings and about half the price of the LN choices. It's also can be quickly blade reversed for a fairly decent scraper setup.

    Last I'd recommend some card scrapers. Invaluable in final surface prep and will cut your sandpaper expenses to almost zero.

    Enjoy the shavings.

  4. #4
    LN # 102 low angle or standard angle for fine work - end grain or just adjusting/refining a surface. Small plane that punches way above it's weight. My favourite plane.
    LN # 4, York pitch frog - the surface smoother! You could go 4 1/2 as well, more money, more work to push.

    The third plane is a tough one to recommend. A shoulder plane for joinery? The all 'round block rabbet which does may things well and could replace the 102 but just isn't as sweet to use? Even with machines the #7 is great to have to really get tight edge joints for glue ups and panel flattening.

    The 4 can be used on a shooting board no problem. You'll appreciate what a shooting board can do for you.

    Hmmm.

    Why not just get the two planes I recommend and hold off on the third until you have some handplane experience and then make the right buy on the third. You will be spending money on sharpening remember!

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    A low-angle jack plane can give you a taste of the wide range of jobs a bench plane is good for. A couple of irons sharpened with different secondary bevels would give you a general purpose smoother and a high-angle smoother for use on highly figured woods. It'll shoot end grain. It'll clean up tear-out from your jointer and planer without introducing big hollows in the board. A toothing iron or cambered plain iron will let you roughly flatten a board face too wide for your jointer -- flat enough to take it to the planer without danger. The Lie-Nielsen is gorgeous, the Veritas is a bit more utilitarian in appearance. I prefer the adjustment mechanism on the Veritas, but that's largely a personal preference. The Veritas' tote is more upright -- designed to be used with a higher (power-tool oriented) workbench.

    A good sharpening kit is absolutely essential. A couple of good waterstones (1000 grit and 8000 grit would be a good place to start) and a method to keep them flat (a DMT coarse/extra-coarse diamond plate works beautifully for me) will help make your first plane experience a good one. I'm using Naniwa "Superstones" with great results -- the big advantage is that they don't need to be soaked prior to use. Just a spritz of water and you're ready to hone. Shaptons are very well regarded, too. A sharpening jig makes the learning curve a bit less steep, especially for an occasional sharpener. Plus, if you're going the bevel-up route a jig makes keeping a consistent secondary bevel easy as can be. I like the Veritas MkII with the camber roller. The inexpensive Eclipse-style does a nice job, too.

    I'd think about plane 2 and 3 after you've got this setup singing for you. You'll have a clearer idea of what's involved, and what you want your next planes to do for you. Once the hook is set, there are plenty of tool pushers around here to reel you in...
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  6. #6
    Get 2 for now:

    a block and a smoother. Then go from there.

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